SUBS!

[BiGMaC]

I don't agree.  A sub not designed to go down below 40hz isn't going to sound good no matter what kind of box it is in.

I would worry less about the sub, and more about the enclosure.

Completely agree with you... perhaps my sub definition is slightly different.  I believe a good subwoofer can go to the edge of or below human sonic frequencies before it reaches the impedance spike which is way above the 2 Db down point... That gives us the part of the experience we can't completely hear... at or below 20Hz. (My OZ 12" superman subs with DVCs were linear to  the spike at 5Hz.. with a 1.8cu ft box and polyfill... true and accurate from 5-80 Hz).....

If a speaker won't produce sounds below 40Hz at or above the impedance spike or at least above the 2 Db down point... Then I call it a woofer and not a sub...

As I said, I agree with you that pushing a speaker to do what it was not designed to do always sounds bad.  But a bad enclosure can make the best sub in the  world sound bad and never reach it's potential or max electrical excursion.

 

[Lanson]

Can't squeeze blood out of a turnip

 

[Lanson]

Usually when people complain about lack on a system, it isn't because the sub is the wrong one or low quality, it is because the alignment (box) is wrong, or not well made. 

One of my favorite things is to take what should be **** equipment and make it sound fantastic.  It is all in the execution.

 

[johnbowler]

Need to have both good equipment and good enclosure.  You can compensate for one with the other, but it won't be great unless both are working in unison.

Having said that, all I want is  a system that will sound good and have some deep bass (20Hz give or take).  don't need to blow out the windows or be heard 4 blocks away.

How is the head unit in the SHO?  I don't want to have to get a new head unit but garbage in, garbage out.  Without a good signal, the best equipment will sound like crap.

Usually when people complain about lack on a system, it isn't because the sub is the wrong one or low quality, it is because the alignment (box) is wrong, or not well made. 

One of my favorite things is to take what should be **** equipment and make it sound fantastic.  It is all in the execution.