Thinking about selling coyote and getting a SHO

[Vortech347]

Pros over a mustang as a daily.

Better MPG
Auto (I hate auto's in toy cars but love them in my daily)
AWD, fear no weather.
Quiet. Inside and out.
Tons of space.
Safter, more metal around you.
Less attention from the law
Owning people at stop lights with the AWD.


Cons to a SHO over a mustang

No more burn outs, slides, or shenangins.  The AWD system is FWD bias.  Grow up time.
Getting your ass kicked from a roll, when the AWD is no longer an advantage and the weight shows it's face. (Even tuned)
Easier to park, the SHO is a big bitch.
Again, 100% FWD with rear wheels being helpers. (I HATE THIS)
Blending in, people won't really notice you for your car anymore.  I had dozens of complements on my former Marauder daily.  No one bats an eye at the Tauri' because they look like Camry's.

Basically if you're ready to grow up a little bit but still enjoy being the occasional smart ass and enjoy a good chill ride, the SHO is great for that.

However, I'll get rid of my mustangs when I'm dead.  LOL

 

[Half-Fast]

Pros over a mustang as a daily.

Better MPG
Auto (I hate auto's in toy cars but love them in my daily)
AWD, fear no weather.
Quiet. Inside and out.
Tons of space.
Safter, more metal around you.
Less attention from the law
Owning people at stop lights with the AWD.

No arguments

I'll add easier egress and ingress in parking lots (2dr vs. 4dr)
Less accessories to spend money on (I guess this could be good or bad)

 

[sholxgt]

Pros over a mustang as a daily.

Better MPG
Auto (I hate auto's in toy cars but love them in my daily)
AWD, fear no weather.
Quiet. Inside and out.
Tons of space.
Safter, more metal around you.
Less attention from the law
Owning people at stop lights with the AWD.

No arguments

I'll add easier egress and ingress in parking lots (2dr vs. 4dr)
Less accessories to spend money on (I guess this could be good or bad)

On the less accessories to spend money on part, I will add that you feel less need to modify a SHO.  If you have one that runs 12's, you probably have one of only several in the county and maybe even state depending on where you live.

If you have a naturally aspirated Coyote, you are one of thousands upon thousands in the county.  Even if you're running 11's you're still in a large group.

I have a Fox body that makes 532whp.  It's just one of the masses and nothing special these days.

 

[coop6]

Very valid points! I'm going to travel some over the next couple of years for work and the Mustang just won't cut it. Plus my line of work is very professional, therefore pulling up in a LT, catless Grabber Blue GT isn't preferable. Do I still want one in my garage to drive occasionally? Dam* right! My fav body style is the new edge. If I get the SHO, I'll save for a new edge. I want an auto to stall and get a turbo.

Thanks for all the help!

 

[coop6]

What are the most common mods that won't hurt reliability of the car?

 

[sholxgt]

What are the most common mods that won't hurt reliability of the car?

Tune, 3 bar map sensor, new factory plugs gapped to .030, and a lower temp thermostat.

You'll be out $550 - $700 depending on the tuner you go with and have a transformed car.

Supporting mods are downpipes and CAI, but neither are necessary.  The parts above represent 90% of any gains you'll get without a built motor and bigger turbos.

 

[SHOdded]

http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/topic,808

 

[coop6]

What are the most common mods that won't hurt reliability of the car?

Tune, 3 bar map sensor, new factory plugs gapped to .030, and a lower temp thermostat.

You'll be out $550 - $700 depending on the tuner you go with and have a transformed car.

Supporting mods are downpipes and CAI, but neither are necessary.  The parts above represent 90% of any gains you'll get without a built motor and bigger turbos.

I spent more than that on my first mod for the mustang, new wheels. I have a couple grand in parts and it may have gained 30hp. Any good sites to buy from??

 

[sholxgt]

What are the most common mods that won't hurt reliability of the car?

Tune, 3 bar map sensor, new factory plugs gapped to .030, and a lower temp thermostat.

You'll be out $550 - $700 depending on the tuner you go with and have a transformed car.

Supporting mods are downpipes and CAI, but neither are necessary.  The parts above represent 90% of any gains you'll get without a built motor and bigger turbos.

I spent more than that on my first mod for the mustang, new wheels. I have a couple grand in parts and it may have gained 30hp. Any good sites to buy from??

For less than the price of your wheels, you can drop a full second off the quarter mile time with a SHO.

http://www.ecopowerparts.com/ - Mike is a great guy and the owner of this forum.  You can't go wrong with this route or with getting advice from him.  If you want downpipes with cats, his are the only ones that will not trigger a CEL on a factory tune.

http://www.unleashedtuning.com/ - Torrie is a supporter of our platform, vendor here, and does remote tuning with uncanny turnaround time using the SCT device.

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/ - Supports our platform, vendor here, highly knowledgeable, and can provide anything available for these cars all they way up to fully a fully built motor.

There are others, but I didn't see a reason to step outside of those 3 very good options.

 

[Vortech347]

What are the most common mods that won't hurt reliability of the car?

All I did on mine was a tune an a K&N.  It was hard for me to "step back" and not screw with everything but honestly the thing hauls ass for being a daily and works well for me.  It's NOT a mustang.  If you realize that you'll love the car for what it is.

 

[coop6]

Nice!!! Thanks so much. I will want to keep the exhaust not basically stock.  If I changed the hold and cold pipes but didn't change exhaust, how would that effect the sound? I'm ok with hearing the turbo, just not into v6 loud exhaust sounds.

 

[coop6]

What are the most common mods that won't hurt reliability of the car?

All I did on mine was a tune an a K&N.  It was hard for me to "step back" and not screw with everything but honestly the thing hauls ass for being a daily and works well for me.  It's NOT a mustang.  If you realize that you'll love the car for what it is.

I totally agree. It would/will be hard. I think if I could get the stance/wheels right, that maybe a tune, 3 bar, t stat and plugs will do me just fine. I def don't want exhaust as it's not a v8.

 

[Half-Fast]

I already own a race car (ya, a Honda), so I'm happy with the power of the SHO as it sits.  I'd like a more growley exhaust, but I'm fresh out of a New Edge GT with flowmasters, and I miss it. I don't miss paying for premium fuel though (tune).

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

The SHO is no Mustang...

Yup, pretty much what every Mustang driver I've encountered probably says as they're looking at Bronzie's big ass passing them up...

I don't think mine would be seeing too many SHO's tail lights

But I do know than can surprise an unsuspecting mustang. I've got mine equipped with anti spin tires so I don't lose due to a smoke show.

Between 2 different tuned SHO"s, I've had 5 coyote kills and zero defeats.

I think you may be surprised in a very good way how well these things respond to the whims of a talented tuner.

My current time was with 100 degree ambients, 170+ degree IAT2 temps, 2600+ DA, and half of my timing tied behind my back due to tuner imposed safety measures. I can't wait to get to the track on a nice cool low DA day. DA Corrected time for the day was 12.2x. Besides the corn tune and 3 bar, I'm stock down to the paper filter.

There have been a handful of lightly bolted cars hit low 12's recently as well.

I noticed an omission in the tuner selection suggestions, fellow member AJPTurbo.

He is a great option with excellent service, communication, and an education you won't receive from anyone else.  He has also allowed me to have a hand in how its tuned and try different things I want to test. Seriously, its like I have my own personal tuner. All factory safety measures including the trans settings are intact and some items have actually been enhanced for a greater degree of safety. I am now spoiled and I suspect interactions with any other tuner will leave me frustrated and disappointed.

Come on over to the dark side, we have cookies!

 

[Half-Fast]

Cookies?  arty:

 

[coop6]

Thanks for all the information! The hard part is finding one relatively close to me. There are a couple I may go test drive. Who know what will happen

 

[coop6]

I officially posted the GT for sale on SVT.

 

[SHOdded]

Yes, yes, come on, come on ...

 

[coop6]

I'm trying! I put it on svt performance and Craigslist. I'm asking a lot knowing they'll talk me down.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

Yes, yes, come on, come on ...

Right back at you!