Torque PIDs...Take 2

[ecoboostsho]

I believe so. Mine reacts pretty quick...

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

Finally loaded these up. Thanks again for all your hard work!

 

[wasinger3000]

What is our cars weight with a full tank?  A little over 4500?

 

[ecoboostsho]

4341 + 119 in gas = 4460 plus or minus depending on options I suppose. Then add yourself!

 

[wasinger3000]

Thanks for the help! I'll see what i get with my e30 tune.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

I'm curious about your results, I think the highest I've seen is 346/338 TQ/HP from a 280-290ish baseline.

Torque calculates WHP/WTQ so the baseline correlates with the stock dynos I've seen.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

4341 + 119 in gas = 4460 plus or minus depending on options I suppose. Then add yourself!

When I had my car weighed, I was at 4690 with a full tank and me at 160 lBS.

If you have a trash dump that uses scales to calculate cost, the may give you your weight if you ask nicely.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

What is our cars weight with a full tank?  A little over 4500?

Did you have any luck with the AWD pid?

 

[wasinger3000]

4341 + 119 in gas = 4460 plus or minus depending on options I suppose. Then add yourself!

When I had my car weighed, I was at 4690 with a full tank and me at 160 lBS.

If you have a trash dump that uses scales to calculate cost, the may give you your weight if you ask nicely.

Was that with or without the spare tire? Spare weighs in at 39lbs. I replaced mine with fords performance pack tire fix kit.

No luck with the awd PID. Tired leaving it blank. Tried putting in AUTO but it still doesn't receive any data.

 

[wasinger3000]

Is it possible to have a PID that shows the temperature difference between the intake temp and the post CAC temp?

 

[Larrylu]

Yes you can. The method is laid out in this thread. I did it subtracting ambient from IAT2 (charge temp). Works great.

 

[wasinger3000]

Yes you can. The method is laid out in this thread. I did it subtracting ambient from IAT2 (charge temp). Works great.

Ok i read pages 11 and 12 but i cant figure out what exactly needs to be done. How do i go about doing this?

I use this equation ( [ 46 ] * 1.8 ) + 32 and subtract it from? Kinda lost.. ha.

 

[ecoboostsho]

You need to create 3 new PIDs as follows in the format of "Long Name", "Short Name", PID, Equation:

Intake Air Temp 2 IAT2 2203ca (A-40)*1.8+32
Ambient Temp Ambient Temp [46]*1.8+32
Ambient to IAT2 Temp Diff (VAL{Intake Air Temp 2})-(VAL{Ambient Temp})

Then add the gauge Ambient to IAT2 and that should get you the total "heatsoak"...The trick to the third gauge is that there isn't a PID...you leave it blank and then create an equation referencing the first two PIDs you created.

Hope that helps?

 

[Larrylu]

You need to create 3 new PIDs as follows in the format of "Long Name", "Short Name", PID, Equation:

Intake Air Temp 2IAT22203ca(A-40)*1.8+32
Ambient TempAmbient Temp[46]*1.8+32
Ambient to IAT2Temp Diff(VAL{Intake Air Temp 2})-(VAL{Ambient Temp})

Then add the gauge Ambient to IAT2 and that should get you the total "heatsoak"...The trick to the third gauge is that there isn't a PID...you leave it blank and then create an equation referencing the first two PIDs you created.

Hope that helps?

So that's the method, and the example formula would get you my heat soak gauge, but you are looking for the differential between CAC and IAT2 right? So substitute your desired PID's into the "calculating" PID. Voila...you have a powerful gauge making capability. One limitation is that I don't think that the built in gauges in Torque work as internal PID's inside this calculating PID.  The custom PID's work great with it though!  Have fun and share your idea/result!

 

[ShoBoat]

I was trying a new program last night on my car. And it gave me a mass air flow rate? Any thoughts? I'll see if I can get the PID for it later today.


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[ecoboostsho]

It would have to he calculated since we don't have mass air flow sensors but definitely interested! I've got a calculated mass air flow gauge but it only reads less than a gram per second all the time which is ridiculously small...

 

[wasinger3000]

You need to create 3 new PIDs as follows in the format of "Long Name", "Short Name", PID, Equation:

Intake Air Temp 2IAT22203ca(A-40)*1.8+32
Ambient TempAmbient Temp[46]*1.8+32
Ambient to IAT2Temp Diff(VAL{Intake Air Temp 2})-(VAL{Ambient Temp})

Then add the gauge Ambient to IAT2 and that should get you the total "heatsoak"...The trick to the third gauge is that there isn't a PID...you leave it blank and then create an equation referencing the first two PIDs you created.

Hope that helps?

Ok I get it now. What I am looking to do is subtract the air temp by the filter box from the sensor temp right before the throttle body. Since that sensor isn't heat soaked on top of the intake it should give me a more accurate reading of what the intercooler is doing.

Would I just use the equations from page one in place of the ones you just made an example with?

Thank you for the help!

 

[ecoboostsho]

Yep. That should do it.

 

[wasinger3000]

Can i use the already existing PID for intake air temp? Or do i need to create a new one? If i do what would the formula for that be?

 

[wasinger3000]

Is the waste gate % supposed to be showing a value while under throttle? Seems like it's opening under boost...