Torque Pro Missing PID's for Transmission Temp Guage .... and others

dalum said:
I wish we had this a couple weeks ago when it was -22F here so I could see what the gauge displayed.

Better late than never ...
I never even thought about Starting  this post until I saw the Aeroforce Interceptor Guage post by 4DR ..... then I started scratchn MY head .
 
glock-coma said:
I just tried this.....I think it actually works. It was about 51 degrees in my garage  the car was in park running for about 2 mins.

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For some reason the 12' EB models, dont have the Fuel pressure. I could definitely use that one.
 
When I tried this on my 2014 Xsport I get an error stating the equation is invalid

This is what it says when u hit test?

"Equation: this value is invalid:(60.9125"


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bigmoneycloser said:
When I tried this on my 2014 Xsport I get an error stating the equation is invalid

This is what it says when u hit test?

"Equation: this value is invalid:(60.9125"


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Can you post the equation you are using exactly?  It looks like you might have a typo in it someplace.  Parentheses matter and are easy to screw up...the only other option would be that they changed the PID in the explorer's - which doesn't make a ton of sense.  Has anyone with a 2013+ actually gotten this to work?
 
dalum said:
I wish we had this a couple weeks ago when it was -22F here so I could see what the gauge displayed.

Well to be honest I don't know that it would show you that unless the number is somehow a signed binary like Knock was...the equation above can never be negative.  I'm guessing Ford simply relies on IAT for startup until the trans temp sensor picks up at 32 degrees F or so...I admit it does seem a little strange it won't go negative
 
Ok
There was an extra "(" in your formula.
Now it's reading and truck has been running for about an hour or so. It's about 60* outside.
Trans temp reads 184* now


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bigmoneycloser said:
Ok
There was an extra "(" in your formula.
Now it's reading and truck has been running for about an hour or so. It's about 60* outside.
Trans temp reads 184* now


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Whoops.  Nice catch! I actually deleted one of the parentheses but value wise it works out the same either way.  See...I told you they matter. Doh!  I updated both my posts.  Appreciated.
 
All good suggestions on further gauges everyone!  I do have a question.  Are we sure that these cars have EGT and Oil Temp sensors?  If the car doesn't have the sensor we obviously can't read it.  I do know you can measure the temp at the CAT's by default with Torque.  We could try some of the truck PIDs and see if they work...

I do know you can definitely get the Manifold Charge Temp (MCT) if we can figure out the PID...hopefully someone can.
 
{I will leave this here for continuity but this PID does NOT work for MCT...}

We could try this for Mean Charge Temp (Air temp after the intercooler which is actually more important than

IAT on these cars - albeit related)...it's from the Diesel trucks but maybe they kept the PID the same.

MCT?
Add a custom PID in Torque by going to the "Settings" section off the main screen.
Enter the following for the fields it prompts you for:
"OBD2 Mode and PID"  =  2216E0
"Long Name" = Mean Charge Temp
"Short Name" = MCT
"Minimum Value" = -40
"Maximum Value" = 500
"Scale Factor" = 1
"Unit Type" = deg
"Equation" = (((A*256)+B)*(9/5-38))

Leave the OBD Header blank

Hit "Test" and make sure you get a value back.  Then click "ok".
Next go to a screen where you actually want the gauge (Under Realtime information off the main screen).  Long

press and "add display"...then pick a type of display...then select the "Mean Charge Temp" (or whatever you

called the Long Name above).  Pick a size and then enjoy!
 
glock-coma said:
Ecoboostsho, really appreciate all your hard work in "cracking" these codes.

I'm just doing the easy part...finding the PIDs is actually the hard part.  We have Swamp Rat to thank for that!
 
ecoboostsho said:
All good suggestions on further gauges everyone!  I do have a question.  Are we sure that these cars have EGT and Oil Temp sensors?  If the car doesn't have the sensor we obviously can't read it.  I do know you can measure the temp at the CAT's by default with Torque.  We could try some of the truck PIDs and see if they work...

I do know you can definitely get the Manifold Charge Temp (MCT) if we can figure out the PID...hopefully someone can.





If you watch the Aeroforce  Interceptor demo video these other guages you mentioned are displayed , so yes the sending units are sending data downstream ,  just  need the PID's to input to Torque ...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s8202PeBo9Q


By the way  .... Damn your good at this ! !
 
SwampRat said:
ecoboostsho said:
All good suggestions on further gauges everyone!  I do have a question.  Are we sure that these cars have EGT and Oil Temp sensors?  If the car doesn't have the sensor we obviously can't read it.  I do know you can measure the temp at the CAT's by default with Torque.  We could try some of the truck PIDs and see if they work...

I do know you can definitely get the Manifold Charge Temp (MCT) if we can figure out the PID...hopefully someone can.





If you watch the Aeroforce  Interceptor demo video these other guages you mentioned are displayed , so yes the sending units are sending data downstream ,  just  need the PID's to input to Torque ...

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s8202PeBo9Q


By the way  .... Damn your good at this ! !

I'll second that!  Thanks to both of you for letting me look over your shoulders and letting me draft along in your wake. I'm anxious to get these 3 (so far) gauges functional this afternoon. Very exciting additions to the custom dashboard.
 
ecoboostsho said:
All good suggestions on further gauges everyone!  I do have a question.  Are we sure that these cars have EGT and Oil Temp sensors?  If the car doesn't have the sensor we obviously can't read it.  I do know you can measure the temp at the CAT's by default with Torque.  We could try some of the truck PIDs and see if they work...

I do know you can definitely get the Manifoldg Charge Temp (MCT) if we can figure out the PID...hopefully someone can.

If you watch the Aeroforce Interceptor demo video below you will see the mentioned guages displayed which means the sending units are there and sending data downstream. All that is needed are the PID's for input to Torque.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=s8202PeBo9Q

By the way ... Damn you are good ! !
 
ecoboostsho said:
We could try this for Mean Charge Temp (Air temp after the intercooler which is actually more important than

IAT on these cars - albeit related)...it's from the Diesel trucks but maybe they kept the PID the same.

MCT?
Add a custom PID in Torque by going to the "Settings" section off the main screen.
Enter the following for the fields it prompts you for:
"OBD2 Mode and PID"  =  2216E0
"Long Name" = Mean Charge Temp
"Short Name" = MCT
"Minimum Value" = -40
"Maximum Value" = 500
"Scale Factor" = 1
"Unit Type" = deg
"Equation" = (((A*256)+B)*(9/5-38))

Leave the OBD Header blank

Hit "Test" and make sure you get a value back.  Then click "ok".
Next go to a screen where you actually want the gauge (Under Realtime information off the main screen).  Long

press and "add display"...then pick a type of display...then select the "Mean Charge Temp" (or whatever you

called the Long Name above).  Pick a size and then enjoy!

Could not get this one to work on Torq Pro on my 2013.... I have been trying to figure out this PID address for sometime, but keep running into a wall.  I know its there since Forscan can see and read it. *Urgh*

Thanks again for the MATH help ...LOL not one of my strong suits.. I will have to read your explanation few more time to better understand it.
 
I had to go and try the three detailed above. First one, tranny temp worked like a charm. Charge temp did not get a value when I tested and Cyl head temp did not return a value either. I canceled out of the menu. I'm wondering if the PID number was correct. For Cyl head temp I put in "221624" and for Charge Temp I put in "2216E0". Also I wonder if the charge temp formula might have an issue with the parentheses or maybe in the last (9/5-3)
 
Well that's a bummer...if you don't get any data back then the PID isn't correct for our cars.  If we can just figure out the PIDs...  Thanks for trying them.  Back to the drawing board for those two...
 
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