Tune + Fuel Options

I will actively discourage people from getting the OBDLink MX WiFi product until I hear it has been stabilized.  For some reason, it has been a real nuisance to work with from the get-go.

I don't see why the vGate device wouldn't work with the iPhone.  Did someone specifically mention that?
http://www.amazon.com/iKKEGOL-Diagnostic-iPhone-Switch-Sleep/dp/B00PFFG1EO/
and a related helpful review for use with the iPhone:
http://www.amazon.com/review/RMKFF5AIRPADS/

Colloids & emulsions. Will come pretty handy with the DGI systems :)
 
SHOdded said:
I will actively discourage people from getting the OBDLink MX WiFi product until I hear it has been stabilized.  For some reason, it has been a real nuisance to work with from the get-go.

I don't see why the vGate device wouldn't work with the iPhone.  Did someone specifically mention that?
http://www.amazon.com/iKKEGOL-Diagnostic-iPhone-Switch-Sleep/dp/B00PFFG1EO/
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I believe it does Manu... Is it still using the ELM 327?  What issues have you been seeing? Just wondering?
 
The OBDLink MX Wifi will act like it's connected, but won't really be.  The device says CONNECTED, but the application intensely disagrees.  I have tried specifying the IP address & port in the app, no go.  After a few months (not that I got to use it even 1 time successfully), it won't even let me reset the password/IP address from the browser-based admin page.

If you want a stress-related trip to the ER, buy this device, folks :D  (Fortunately, the Bluetooth version is a dream device.)  Maybe they have a Jekyll & Hyde psychosis at Scantool?

Yup, everything is still ELM327 based.
 
So i don't have any options for this other than trading my iPhone for a windows or other smart phone


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SHOdded said:
The OBDLink MX Wifi will act like it's connected, but won't really be.  The device says CONNECTED, but the application intensely disagrees.  I have tried specifying the IP address & port in the app, no go.  After a few months (not that I got to use it even 1 time successfully), it won't even let me reset the password/IP address from the browser-based admin page.

If you want a stress-related trip to the ER, buy this device, folks :D  (Fortunately, the Bluetooth version is a dream device.)  Maybe they have a Jekyll & Hyde psychosis at Scantool?

Yup, everything is still ELM327 based.
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Hmmm... The only issue I had read in online reviews consistently was failing to wake from sleep correctly which was not everyone iOS... Good info... If bought for the power, be sure you can return it I guess. Thanks for the info Manu.

Of course, if you just want to read codes I guess a MyCal or an SCT tuner will do that anyway and an Aeroforce can do limited logging and trending.
 
As others have mentioned , the 93 tune will perform better as it sees higher octane to a certain extent.  So it definitely would never hurt to run something higher than 93 octane to allow the tune to advance timing and add performance to the best of it's abilities.  Some areas have 93 that is not the greatest quality which will cause the tune to retard timing as it sees knock.  The higher octane should ensure the tune does not retard timing and allow it to perform at it's highest levels possible.
 
Livernois Motorsports said:
As others have mentioned , the 93 tune will perform better as it sees higher octane to a certain extent.  So it definitely would never hurt to run something higher than 93 octane to allow the tune to advance timing and add performance to the best of it's abilities.  Some areas have 93 that is not the greatest quality which will cause the tune to retard timing as it sees knock.  The higher octane should ensure the tune does not retard timing and allow it to perform at it's highest levels possible.
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Awesome thanks for the response LMS! I have been experimenting with the 1 gal E85 / 15 gal 93 mixture the last few fill ups. I'll have more concrete results in the next few weeks. I saw some surprising things since I added the e85... To be continued....
 
14SHOCAR said:
Livernois Motorsports said:
As others have mentioned , the 93 tune will perform better as it sees higher octane to a certain extent.  So it definitely would never hurt to run something higher than 93 octane to allow the tune to advance timing and add performance to the best of it's abilities.  Some areas have 93 that is not the greatest quality which will cause the tune to retard timing as it sees knock.  The higher octane should ensure the tune does not retard timing and allow it to perform at it's highest levels possible.
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Awesome thanks for the response LMS! I have been experimenting with the 1 gal E85 / 15 gal 93 mixture the last few fill ups. I'll have more concrete results in the next few weeks. I saw some surprising things since I added the e85... To be continued....
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No problem, glad to help as always!

I know there are a few guys I have spoke with that do add a small amount of e85 with a tank of 93 and seem to do well at the track when they go.  This is not something that we recommend to customers or have done with our vehicles so let us know how it works out for you. 
 
So I will have a video on this (someday) but preliminary results are that the car is SLIGHTLY more aggressive, however, I now have popping out the exhaust (which I think are the waste gates opening) again between 2nd and 3rd gear. Not. A. Fan.

I didn't have problems with a 1 gallon to 16 mixture. Once I went to 1.5 gallons to 15.5... it threw everything off.

I'd be interested in working with Livernois to see if this is why people are having problems with the winter blends with the 93 tune. It seems the more ethanol in the fuel, the more tune irregularities people will have.

Also, another factor that may attribute to these results, we are seasonably colder than usual. Weather has been 50-58, with relative low humidity (65-70%)... as opposed to when I started the test with 80-90 degrees and high humidity.


 
You are only filling 17 gallons in toto?  Assuming E10 as the base gas, 1:16 gets you 14.7% while 1.5:15.5 gets you 17.3% ethanol.  That's for the first time.  If there is gasoline remaining, then each time the ethanol % gets slightly higher.

Could be bad gas or an intake leak as well if there is a "popping" sound.
 
I've been mixing 1.5 gallons to 13 gallons of 93 (10% E) for almost a full year now. Zero issues here.

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What exactly did it throw off?

I've had 2 SHO's tuned, untuned, stock, and every blend you can think of and never had an issue. (except that one time I was playing fast and loose with the blend in really cold weather coupled with an aggressive tune, but that was purely self inflicted, lol.)

You can get some lazy throttle response initially but that goes away as the car trims the mixture.

IDK why you'd have popping out the exhaust suddenly, that's not something i've ever heard anyone describe from mixing E. And there's a lot of guys with lots of different setups blending if you look across the Ecoboost spectrum.

You might want to check your blowoff tubes as some cars have apparently had fitting caps left in at the factory.

Also consider you are possibly on winter gas instead of summer now.

Are you monitoring with Torque or something similar?

If so, take a look at OAR octane adjust ratio (aka LOR) and see if it's at -1. If it's anything above that I would consider filling up at another station as there may be something amiss with your current tank.

 
I would also check if any of the weep holes under the muffler are clogged,black soot and condenation could of blocked those holes leading to rust buildup,sounds like you might have one side clogged up,grab a small phillips screw driver and check underneath.  Z
 
SHOnUup said:
I've been mixing 1.5 gallons to 13 gallons of 93 (10% E) for almost a full year now. Zero issues here.

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That's good information to have right there.


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I have to travel to a different state in order to obtain E-85,what would be the most practical solution to add E-85 to a empty tank considering 93(E-10)is available and how much E-85 should be added to the mix,(before or after)apologize if this question was asked before,trying to prepare for the winter ***blend to kick in,thanks.  Z
 
Air & watertight container to store E85, and a pump for that container to add the fuel to your car.  Use the calculator here to figure the %ages:
http://www.intercepteft.com/calc.html

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W9JN4S or
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W9P83S or
http://www.jerrycan.com/shop/20-liter-yellow-steel-wavian-jerry-can/

and
http://www.amazon.com/Flo-08338-MaxFlo-Siphon-Pump/dp/B003TG9J36

Another thing you COULD do is carry a weighing scale with you.  Weigh the empty container.  Fill it up.  Weigh again.  When disbursing, have the container on the scale.  When the weight drops to the volume you want disbursed, stop pumping.  Somewhat clunky process, but cheaper than getting a flow meter on the pump from what I have seen on the consumer market.
 
Thanks for all the replies.

I think it was my car adjusting to the new gas. The car was 100% 93 octane when I went back to the E85 Mixture. I've been spacing out the e85 mixtures every couple of tanks so I can get a "true mix". I still had gas in the tank so it was 1.5 (E85) to 15.5 (93). It was only during WOT between 2nd and 3rd that it was starting to lose power, which I assume the "popping" is the car opening the waste gates (not misfires, though it could be). It was doing a similar thing when I had the cat-less downpipes on.

The car didn't have the WOT pop before I put in the e85 mixture. I am almost always at WOT in my car -- it's how I drive. The car was stable until I made the new mix. The 1.0(e85) to 15.5 (e85) mixture was stable and didn't have any popping.. it was only after I added that additional half gallon that the car started  to pop.

My car has now adjusted to the new mix and I don't get popping anymore with the new mixture.

It raises the question -- if you make the change, do you need to keep the mix for the LOR and curves to remain consistent?



 
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