Tuning the 3.0 Continental

Brucelinc

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After months of driving a nice but boring stock Continental, I finally decided to work with our forum friend AJP Turbo to see if we could wake up my sleepy "quiet luxury" ride.  First off, BIG KUDOS to Brad for actually pushing SCT to support my car's strategy code.    I couldn't get them to do it and other tuners wouldn't even try. 

We ran a couple of logs and Brad explained what he was seeing and what could be done to safely improve it.  I have been driving with the first version of the tune and am very impressed.  The transmission tuning is exactly the way I like it - smooth as silk at part throttle and firm and quick at WOT.  BIG improvement over stock.  The car pulls harder now and I know there are more tweaks to be made with future revisions.

I am not sure if the 3.0 engine will respond to tuning as well as the 3.5 Ecoboost but I am sure that Brad will do all he can with it while retaining the luxury daily driving experience.  I look forward to future revisions and also taking it to the track. 

Thanks, AJP Turbo!!! 

 
hawkeye93 said:
Good deal, Bruce.  Get that thing dialed in, and let's meet up at the track!






...or even a stoplight...

LOL....I have seen your timeslips from Rock Falls.  I don't expect to be able to match those with just a tune.  If we can get the Conti consistently into the 12s without bolt-ons or meth, I will be happy!

 
TSS said:
That's what that's they used to say about us MKS owners. :-)b

Excellent point.  I still hold YOU mostly responsible for me getting my MKS tuned.  You might have been the first MKS owner to get a tune.
 
Brucelinc thank you for the kind words. And I've been impressed with SCT's response time in adding strategies upon request even though in may have to come from dealers.

I do expect some moderate gains but I suspect that the 3.0tt ecoboost is pushed harder from Ford than the SHO was which is good. As far as specific output goes it's pretty impressive....35 more hp and .5 liter less displacement are nice gains.

The crappy thing about calibration development on new models is the learning curve...A lot is the same but atlot is different...And the controller within the 3.0tt is different than the SHO...Just like the gen 1 SHO's are different than the Gen 2 SHO's....Sometimes it's nice to have one of the vehicles in person and bang out tunes for a couple weeks but we don't have that luxury.

I'm excited to work on it...Always interesting to pioneer a platform.

At first glance I liked your first tune but we need to take a few baby steps.

I will say that a lot of the calibration is similar to the 2.7tt ecoboost and it's the same controller. And I have some dyno's and info on the 2.7tt ecoboost in my truck if I can ever find time to post it....I've really slacked off on the leisure posts lately because of time...But I still really enjoy giving insight into the tunes and some of the things that people don't normally get to see.

I put down 366whp/465wtq with no bolt ons but with E30 in my 2.7 F150 so I fully expect you to be right there. And I have also been running full E85 without switching tunes. I basically enabled flex fuel logic. And the Continental has that ability as well as the MKS I would think.

More to come.
 
AJP turbo said:
I put down 366whp/465wtq with no bolt ons but with E30 in my 2.7 F150 so I fully expect you to be right there. And I have also been running full E85 without switching tunes. I basically enabled flex fuel logic. And the Continental has that ability as well as the MKS I would think.

More to come.

Holy Mother!  That little engine is a torque monster!!  I want some of that!!
 
Brucelinc said:
TSS said:
That's what that's they used to say about us MKS owners. :-)b

Excellent point.  I still hold YOU mostly responsible for me getting my MKS tuned.  You might have been the first MKS owner to get a tune.

I might have been,  but that path for us MKS guys was was cleared by all the SHO owners.

And I attribute my taking the plunge to with the 3-Bar  tune to Don (Donky4444). I took a trip the  Detroit International auto show with him in his first SHO, and got on the phone with Livernois  VERY soon after that regarding upgrading to a 3-Bar 
 
AJP turbo said:
Brucelinc thank you for the kind words. And I've been impressed with SCT's response time in adding strategies upon request even though in may have to come from dealers.

I do expect some moderate gains but I suspect that the 3.0tt ecoboost is pushed harder from Ford than the SHO was which is good. As far as specific output goes it's pretty impressive....35 more hp and .5 liter less displacement are nice gains.

The crappy thing about calibration development on new models is the learning curve...A lot is the same but atlot is different...And the controller within the 3.0tt is different than the SHO...Just like the gen 1 SHO's are different than the Gen 2 SHO's....Sometimes it's nice to have one of the vehicles in person and bang out tunes for a couple weeks but we don't have that luxury.

I'm excited to work on it...Always interesting to pioneer a platform.

At first glance I liked your first tune but we need to take a few baby steps.

I will say that a lot of the calibration is similar to the 2.7tt ecoboost and it's the same controller. And I have some dyno's and info on the 2.7tt ecoboost in my truck if I can ever find time to post it....I've really slacked off on the leisure posts lately because of time...But I still really enjoy giving insight into the tunes and some of the things that people don't normally get to see.

I put down 366whp/465wtq with no bolt ons but with E30 in my 2.7 F150 so I fully expect you to be right there. And I have also been running full E85 without switching tunes. I basically enabled flex fuel logic. And the Continental has that ability as well as the MKS I would think.

More to come.
that's incredible!
is there any other models that have the flex fuel logic capability?


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I just finished logging Brad's first revision on my Conti tune.    It is feeling really good!  The car is really waking up and becoming much more fun to drive.  Shifts great and pulls hard. 

Brad says we are taking baby steps and I appreciate that.  He clearly wants the tunes to be safe as well as powerful.  I actually asked him to take a pretty big swing at it - pressed him to advance the timing, raise the boost and give me more RPM.  I even jokingly told him that if I blew it up, we would just get another one!  I really do appreciate him protecting me from myself and doing only what the logs show can safely be done.

I was never much of a fan of datalogging.  I may have even referred to it as tuning by trial and error.  However, I was an idiot.  With a new generation engine like the Lincoln 3.0TT, the ONLY way to really dial it in is through the logging process.  With the 3.5 ecoboost SHO, tuners have tons of experience with multiple cars on the dyno and it is possible to get a good tune without logging.  I loved the LMS tune on my MKS.  However, I now understand why so many guys prefer to datalog and essentially tune their car in increments to achieve the final desired result.

I wonder what Brad will do with my tune next???  Such fun!!
 
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