Ughh these cheap leather seats

mval said:
that what's great about internet forum's. you get a lot of junk or misleading info, but also valuable info from experts even though they are aged!!!!!!!!
larry, just hopped on the net & got me some 303 on the way. i always thought seats where all leather. i have not noticed anything in that area of seats but now will doing the leather & vinyl portions of seats using different products.
thanks again
mikev
Just make sure you are not putting something oily on the vinyl. Be suspicious. Much safer to not put anything on at all!!!  When you park outdoors in the summer try to vent somehow or find shade to keep inside heat to reasonable temps. Use 303 to minimize sun damage. If good quality material was used, you should not have to do much more than that. Better to omit than to add a harmful product. Remember they always say their product is good. 


2010 Steel Blue Metallic, Fully Loaded, non PP, LMS 4+, K&N drop in, 170 T-stat, 3 bar MAP
 
Only thing I've put on my seats are the nozzle of the vaccum and a damp microfiber. Other thing is I'd have no idea what to use on the suede of my seats that wouldn't harm it.
 
I worry about the alcantra inserts in mine (the recycled plastic pop bottles) myself... but if I got full leather seats I had to have sueded steering wheel and shift handle.... i decided my hands would ruin those pretty quick
 
What do you think of periodically steam cleaning the seats, Larry, regardless of material involved?  Would that help keep the suppleness intact?
 
When I look on parts list it appears you can buy a new seat cushion for couple hundred bucks but would it match? I have same crack its for sure from the sharp edge and the getting in and out. Im thinking of placing felt or some sort of black fabric to the edge of the plastic.

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BiGMaC said:
I worry about the alcantra inserts in mine (the recycled plastic pop bottles) myself... but if I got full leather seats I had to have sueded steering wheel and shift handle.... i decided my hands would ruin those pretty quick

I don't know what would be good for that material. On the other hand it's probably indestructible.  You really don't have to do so much. Less is really more. A soft cloth dampened with a mild soap and water once in a while if needed. Spot clean as needed for stains.


2010 Steel Blue Metallic, Fully Loaded, non PP, LMS 4+, K&N drop in, 170 T-stat, 3 bar MAP
 
SHOdded said:
What do you think of periodically steam cleaning the seats, Larry, regardless of material involved?  Would that help keep the suppleness intact?
Do you have some really heavy dirt/soil to remove?  If not then it might be a little overkill. If it's an effort to prolong the lifespan....IDK. Sun is a killer. Heat buildup in the parked car is a killer. Body oil from body contact (arm on the armrest, oily hair on the headrest, etc.) should be periodically removed with soft cloth dampened with mild soap and water. Watch out for additives/treatments, they can hurt you.  No magic pro active treatment that I know of so best not to shoot oneself in the foot chasing one. The mfg. didn't give us materials designed to last for 20 years in normal use and you probably are not going to find something in a $15 dollar bottle that's going to magically extend that lifespan. My opinion only.  Based solely on observations of what I have seen around me over the years. Probably find plenty who disagree.

Kinda like if you wanted to live to be a hundred years old. Taking vitamins......probably not going to help much. Over the long haul if you don't eat junk and you don't start smoking ....just might give yourself the most years possible.


2010 Steel Blue Metallic, Fully Loaded, non PP, LMS 4+, K&N drop in, 170 T-stat, 3 bar MAP
 
Larrylu said:
SHOdded said:
What do you think of periodically steam cleaning the seats, Larry, regardless of material involved?  Would that help keep the suppleness intact?
Do you have some really heavy dirt/soil to remove?  If not then it might be a little overkill. If it's an effort to prolong the lifespan....IDK. Sun is a killer. Heat buildup in the parked car is a killer. Body oil from body contact (arm on the armrest, oily hair on the headrest, etc.) should be periodically removed with soft cloth dampened with mild soap and water. Watch out for additives/treatments, they can hurt you.  No magic pro active treatment that I know of so best not to shoot oneself in the foot chasing one. The mfg. didn't give us materials designed to last for 20 years in normal use and you probably are not going to find something in a $15 dollar bottle that's going to magically extend that lifespan. My opinion only.  Based solely on observations of what I have seen around me over the years. Probably find plenty who disagree.

Kinda like if you wanted to live to be a hundred years old. Taking vitamins......probably not going to help much. Over the long haul if you don't eat junk and you don't start smoking ....just might give yourself the most years possible.

My detail guy is after me to do the CarPro interior protection... kinda like CQuart finest for dash, seats, carpet, etc... I worry most about the inserts as I said.... Phx summer is inside car >250o every day when it's out for more than 45-50 minutes mid-day..vaporizes all the liquids out of the leather/plastic/etc.... he thinks sealing it will prolong the life.... dunno  :dunno:
 
But ... but ... it's a DRY heat :D  No possibility of solar-active ventilation, Tom?  They used to sell these devices you stick between the top of the window and frame to ventilate the interior.
 
SHOdded said:
But ... but ... it's a DRY heat :D  No possibility of solar-active ventilation, Tom?  They used to sell these devices you stick between the top of the window and frame to ventilate the interior.
Never saw that. Sounds interesting. How about popping the sunroof?


2010 Steel Blue Metallic, Fully Loaded, non PP, LMS 4+, K&N drop in, 170 T-stat, 3 bar MAP
 
I've always felt that the sun did more damage than rain/snow to a vehicle...I've used a sunshade in the windshield and keep the rear sunshade up every time I park the SHO...I don't know if it helps, but I don't think it hurts to keep the direct sun from beating in the car all day. I see that Weathertech makes a car cover, and lately I've been given serious consideration to a cover...I think that would also help keep both interior and exterior protected from sun damage.
 
BiGMaC said:
Thanks guys... I worry about vandalism/theft.... but maybe a fan is the idea

I'm a computer nerd... so I found this at NewEgg. This is more expensive, but 10 year warranty, has 2 fans... and puts the solar panel outside, and has a website with testing, etc..... still I'm baking it all at 130-140o

What do you think?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=0FB-00N8-00001
Good find, Tom.  But yeah, coz of security concerns, I was going for an integrated solar solution, avoids all the hassles with a DD.
 
Just took a look at that, good find Tom! I will have to show to the wife, maybe she would want one to0 for her cars...since while she's at work, it's in the hot sun all day during the summer months...not much shade around her prison.
 
I have the same issue with my 11 at only 28k miles. I'm not a heavyweight at 160-170 lbs. I noticed that the vinyl there is a bit brittle. That's surprising at only a couple years old.

The dealer didn't do anything under my ESP warranty. When it bugs me enough, I think I'll look at other options like the full leather cover mentioned above.
 
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