Unleashed tuning and Livernois tuning comparison on my SHO

[southtxSHO]

Before anything, I just want to clarify that I am posting this with the sole purpose to show the difference in tunes on MY SHO.
I have  been working  with Torrie for the past weeks on my tune , by sending him data logs. He said he felt very good with last revised tune he sent me so I said it's time for the track .




Ran a 13.3 as soon as I got to the track . I said okay it must that it need to cool down . So I waited 2 hrs and went at it again . Ran a 13.1 both launches were at 2k and no wheels spin.




Not being happy with the times I removed the current tune and loaded the LMS 4x tune . So off to the staging lanes I went and ran a 13.0 with wheel spin . Waited for car to cool down for 20 minutes and this time I launched it 2500 big mistake cause I spinned  even more . Ran a 13.1 . Wished I could of ran again but staging lanes closed . So there you have the comparison of both tunes on my SHO .

 

[4DRHTRD]

Since both tune ran 105.X MPH (almost identical) I'd say your power from both tunes is almost identical

 

[nickstewartroc]

Thanks for the comparison, this is great!

 

[SHOdded]

Good info there :thumb:

 

[SHOnUup]

Great comparison...12's were so close

Rich

 

[IHeartGroceries]

Very interesting...

 

[bpd1151]

Interesting for sure.

Puzzled as to why you waited only 20min in between both runs with the LMS file(s) AND you chose to launch 500rpms higher on the 2nd LMS pull?

Seems perhaps based on your results, you could've eek'd out a 12.9 at the minimum by launching at 2K & allowing a lil more cool down time.

Either way, LMS by a hair w/ the 13.0 flat.

Nice job & thanks for posting!

Both tuners should be commended for their respective efforts. Bravo! :clap2:

 

[southtxSHO]

Interesting for sure.

Puzzled as to why you waited only 20min in between both runs with the LMS file(s) AND you chose to launch 500rpms higher on the 2nd LMS pull?

Seems perhaps based on your results, you could've eek'd out a 12.9 at the minimum by launching at 2K & allowing a lil more cool down time.

Either way, LMS by a hair w/ the 13.0 flat.

Nice job & thanks for posting!

Both tuners should be commended for their respective efforts. Bravo! :clap2:

I was hurrying up before track closed . It was already past the cutoff time to close the staging lanes . The reason I chose to go 500 rpm higher was that I wanted that 12s second so desperately  and felt confident it wouldn't spin which I was wrong .lol

 

[southtxSHO]

I've been able to run a 12.8 with the LMS tune .

 

[ZSHO]

I guess it goes to SHO you each tuners limitations and how aggressive they can go without causing any potential failures to the E.B platform,a great way to safeguard your vehicle and having to explain to your warranty company.

 

[IHeartGroceries]

Several uncontrolled variables may have skewed results. But I do agree it at least confirms they're not too far apart in the performance spectrum.

 

[ElvenSho]

Glad they are so close. All I really saw was the same MPH which tells u everything. The actual time could be better for Unleashed tune if it was ran at the end of the day instead of before. In an hour or two things change. (track becomes stickier or weather). They are both great imo.

 

[middthrew00]

What other mods does your car have besides a tune?

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Logging is not needed to tune on the EcoBoost platform, we have been preaching this for years. We never laid eyes on SOTX's SHO. And still won.

We know the inner-workings of the EB logic. We have put countless hours of time into the engineering of our own tuning software and hardware dev.

Thanks for the fair comparison. Clearly from the times, coupled with the fact that our runs had did not benefit from a 2 hour cool down, and the fat that it's overpowering the tires on the launch tells us what potential there is once you get traction with our tuning.

This is why we preach that datalogging is not required, because if you know how to tune these properly, then the car does everything you ask of it. Our out of the box tune outperforming a tune that has been tweaked for weeks just continues to show the amount of truth in what we are saying.

 

[SHOnUup]

Seeing as how you have the ability to swap tunes. Maybe try running Livernois tune for "say" a full day at least, and head to track with it as first runs. Then switch to the Torrie tunes.

Just an idea to try.

Rich

 

[IHeartGroceries]

Yeah, if there's any adaptive logic in the tune, as is typically the case, you'd be at a disadvantage running it full bore having just uploaded a set of new tables.
Of course, with of this backward control feedback taking place on this engine, not certain that applies.

 

[southtxSHO]

What other mods does your car have besides a tune?

LMS catted down pipes, drop in k&n, 3 bar sensor and Sp534 plugs .

 

[southtxSHO]

Seeing as how you have the ability to swap tunes. Maybe try running Livernois tune for "say" a full day at least, and head to track with it as first runs. Then switch to the Torrie tunes.

Just an idea to try.

Rich

I will be doing this soon just out of curiosity

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Seeing as how you have the ability to swap tunes. Maybe try running Livernois tune for "say" a full day at least, and head to track with it as first runs. Then switch to the Torrie tunes.

Just an idea to try.

Rich

I will be doing this soon just out of curiosity

I would give it more than a day, if you can. The adaptive learning that the EB's have takes a while to "learn".
But, we definitely appreciate the comparo!

 

[southtxSHO]

Seeing as how you have the ability to swap tunes. Maybe try running Livernois tune for "say" a full day at least, and head to track with it as first runs. Then switch to the Torrie tunes.

Just an idea to try.

Rich

I will be doing this soon just out of curiosity

I would give it more than a day, if you can. The adaptive learning that the EB's have takes a while to "learn".
But, we definitely appreciate the comparo!

I'm currently running the LMS tune , so that won't be a problem. I had been running the unleashed tune for a week since the last revised tune.