Used Tuners

[blownbyyou]

So I was thinking about purchasing one of the used tuners that are currently for sale on the board and was kind of wondering what I would have to do to make them work on my car (2011 SHO btw).

Here is what I have gathered so far and someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Livernoise- If its an SCT from Livernois as long as I can marry the tuner to my car and I have the same mods as the previous owner I should be okay right ? (atleast with regards to 3- bar map or alky injection?). Or am I way off base?

Unleashed- If its an unleashed I would assume I would also have to spend the 150 on a tuning fee as he custom tunes the vehicle atleast froma  data logging aspect.

Am I right in those assumptions or am I way off base? As a note I am just looking for a little more fun in the car, I barely bring it above 3,000 rpm.



P.s. thanks for the help, quasi new to the SHO world.

 

[derfdog15]

Livernoise, you have to pay to unlock the tuner, and that includes your tunes as well I believe. Something like $400 or so for that.

SCT tuner (will have to use Unleased or AJPTurbo, a Member on this forum, as livernoise does not support it) - Unless it has been locked (married to 5 different ECMs) once the previous owner unmarries and returns his/her car to stock, you will just need the tune files

AJPTurbo charges $150 for the tunes, and IMO is the best option. I believe the unleashed price is similar, but with less tunes.

Hope this helps.

 

[blownbyyou]

Please disregard my ignorance....

But if i purchase used livernois tune would it be plug and play?

Sorry just a little confused.

If its unleashed/ajp  I would have to pay 150 for the tunes...

 

[ZSHO]

If your looking for a basic plug and play tune as you mentioned above then LME would be a great choice and there is a one time re-licensing/transfer fee of 300.00 which includes unlimited lifetime tunes and please due throw an INTRO for yourself simply by following this link,thanks.  Z  http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html

 

[blownbyyou]

If your looking for a basic plug and play tune as you mentioned above then LME would be a great choice and there is a one time re-licensing/transfer fee of 300.00 which includes unlimited lifetime tunes and please due throw an INTRO for yourself simply by following this link,thanks.  Z  http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html

Thank you sir!

So at this point it really makes no sense to buy a a used tuner based on this math...

Used tuner 200 bucks....
Retune/liscense fee 150-300.

Brand new unleashed tune 400....

Kind of is a no brainer isn't it?

Also will be posting in the noob section soon, want to get a pic of the car...

Also why do I have to keep doing the verification after each post?

 

[ZSHO]

If your looking for a basic plug and play tune as you mentioned above then LME would be a great choice and there is a one time re-licensing/transfer fee of 300.00 which includes unlimited lifetime tunes and please due throw an INTRO for yourself simply by following this link,thanks.  Z  http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html

Thank you sir!

So at this point it really makes no sense to buy a a used tuner based on this math...

Used tuner 200 bucks....
Retune/liscense fee 150-300.

Brand new unleashed tune 400....

Kind of is a no brainer isn't it?

Also will be posting in the noob section soon, want to get a pic of the car...

Also why do I have to keep doing the verification after each post?

Its a security feature that will go away after 5 posts,sorry about that.  Z

 

[SHOdded]

Ya, blame the spambots that plagued the forum a while back for our "beefier" drawbridge.

 

[derfdog15]

If your looking for a basic plug and play tune as you mentioned above then LME would be a great choice and there is a one time re-licensing/transfer fee of 300.00 which includes unlimited lifetime tunes and please due throw an INTRO for yourself simply by following this link,thanks.  Z  http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html

Thank you sir!

So at this point it really makes no sense to buy a a used tuner based on this math...

Used tuner 200 bucks....
Retune/liscense fee 150-300.

Brand new unleashed tune 400....

Kind of is a no brainer isn't it?

Also will be posting in the noob section soon, want to get a pic of the car...

Also why do I have to keep doing the verification after each post?

While it may cost almost the same, it does save some money, and in my opinion, I would rather save the little bit and get a tune from AJP. He sells the tuners as well. Also that unleashed price is just One type of tune I believe, if you want other fuels, etc. you will have to pay more.

 

[blownbyyou]

First off wahoo the verification thingy is gone!


Second, I talked to Torrie a while ago and he said that the 400.00 covers any minor updates to your tune. i.e. new 3 bar, downpipes, etc.


Might as well go that way...

 

[derfdog15]

First off wahoo the verification thingy is gone!


Second, I talked to Torrie a while ago and he said that the 400.00 covers any minor updates to your tune. i.e. new 3 bar, downpipes, etc.


Might as well go that way...

That is correct. But I was referencing fuel types etc.

For instance, I currently have a full 93 octane tune, and an E20 tune. With torrie I would have had to pay for a second tune to get the E20 tune I believe.

If I wanted an 87 tune, I could get one, whereas again that would be another charge.

But it is your car, and your choice, and no matter the route you go a tuned SHO is a world of difference from stock, and much more fun.

 

[blownbyyou]

In all honesty I barely ever get on this thing, but I want to get a tune so I can have some fun when I do.

There is a guy selling a used tuner and 3 bar in FS section so I am going to try and pick that up.... I had to pm him because I can't post in the for sale area. Guessing I have to get some more posts in...

 

[SHOdded]

I don't think you have to pay for a second tune for E20 with Torrie.  It is not a major change in the scheme of things.  FoMoCo can confirm tho.

 

[blownbyyou]

I don't think you have to pay for a second tune for E20 with Torrie.  It is not a major change in the scheme of things.  FoMoCo can confirm tho.

I think if you want two tunes you have to pay for an additional, however if you just want a different tune then he will change it for you....

Atleast from what I have seen...

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

I don't think you have to pay for a second tune for E20 with Torrie.  It is not a major change in the scheme of things.  FoMoCo can confirm tho.

I had multiple E versions and a 93 and I never paid more than the initial cost.

I have 27 29 revisions on my AJPTurbo tune and I am so happy with the service and tunes that I like to fill his collection plate from time to time.

 

[StealBlueSHO]

I don't think you have to pay for a second tune for E20 with Torrie.  It is not a major change in the scheme of things.  FoMoCo can confirm tho.

I think if you want two tunes you have to pay for an additional, however if you just want a different tune then he will change it for you....

Atleast from what I have seen...

If you want to play and save money pick up a used SCT and then PM AJPTurbo... Trust me, it's worth every penny you will save :-D ..He should charge more for his tunes.... But hey, his business..

I have had LMS, Torrie, and AJPTurbo tune mine.. if you haven't already decided I HIGHLY recommend AJP...

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[MiWiAu]

If you want to play and save money pick up a used SCT and then PM AJPTurbo... Trust me, it's worth every penny you will save :-D ..He should charge more for his tunes.... But hey, his business..

I have had LMS, Torrie, and AJPTurbo tune mine.. if you haven't already decided I HIGHLY recommend AJP...

I couldn't agree more.

I started with Unleashed got 2 revisions on my custom 87 performance tune before I was told we were done. Zero revisions on my 87 Tow tune. I didn't even bother trying the 93 custom tune (which, frankly, is probably where I would have seen more gains/revisions).

Contacted AJP Turbo and couldn't be happier. Wish I would have started with Brad (AJP), but oh well. Brad always kept me informed as to what he was seeing in my logs, what he was changing, what he was looking for, and answered all my noob questions, and he never sent an email shorter than 6 words, LOL.

It seems others on here have had good experiences with Unleashed.

How involved do you want to be in the tuning experience? I wanted to learn as much as possible, data log, analyze data, ask a lot of questions and really feel like I was immersed in the process. You can be as far inserted (or removed) in the process as you want to be with Brad.

If you haven't yet pulled the trigger, I would encourage you to contact possible tuning vendors directly and ask some questions and gauge their responses to see which one fits your needs best.

Welcome to the addiction.

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[BOT_ROCKET]

AJP is tuning my '17 Fusion Sport, and even though I'm probably not the best person to work with while he's trying to tune a car for the first time, he has been patient and actually gives me information about what he's doing. With Unleashed and LMS, they keep their tuning secrets... well, secret. Brad's livelihood doesn't depend on his tuning income, so he can tell you things that the other tuners wont tell you for fear of losing business. ie: he told me that SCT is missing tables for my car that he needs to do tings right. He said he *could* basically rig it to get the desired effect, but doesn't like doing it that way. Unleashed isn't likely to tell you that and may or may not be "rigging" the Sports that they are tuning. Not that I know enough about it to say the "rigged" way is the wrong way, but that fact is that the owners of those cars will never know how Torrie is getting his results.

Add another one to the AJP recommendations.

 

[jims2015]

I don't think you have to pay for a second tune for E20 with Torrie.  It is not a major change in the scheme of things.  FoMoCo can confirm tho.

I think if you want two tunes you have to pay for an additional, however if you just want a different tune then he will change it for you....

Atleast from what I have seen...

If you want to play and save money pick up a used SCT and then PM AJPTurbo... Trust me, it's worth every penny you will save :-D ..He should charge more for his tunes.... But hey, his business..

I have had LMS, Torrie, and AJPTurbo tune mine.. if you haven't already decided I HIGHLY recommend AJP...

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Does the used SCT X4 have to be a 7015 or will any model work?

 

[derfdog15]

I don't think you have to pay for a second tune for E20 with Torrie.  It is not a major change in the scheme of things.  FoMoCo can confirm tho.

I think if you want two tunes you have to pay for an additional, however if you just want a different tune then he will change it for you....

Atleast from what I have seen...

If you want to play and save money pick up a used SCT and then PM AJPTurbo... Trust me, it's worth every penny you will save :-D ..He should charge more for his tunes.... But hey, his business..

I have had LMS, Torrie, and AJPTurbo tune mine.. if you haven't already decided I HIGHLY recommend AJP...

Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Does the used SCT X4 have to be a 7015 or will any model work?

You need the 7015, as far as I know, as that is the one that is ford based, and has the firmware to support ford vehicles/strategies. You could give SCT a call to confirm if you wish as well.

 

[deejjjaaaa]

With Unleashed and LMS, they keep their tuning secrets... well, secret.

how they can be a secret if one can put a tune in using their tuners and then readout them back using theirs and data format is known (for those who tune) ?