What oil does everyone use?

It contributes heavily to viscosity losses. Really, shearing may not be the correct terminology. Shearing occurs from VI modifiers breaking down over time, through regular use. Fuel dilution is exactly as it sounds - oil diluted with gasoline. It's the same effect, but slightly different causes.

It's a problem most significantly on GDI engines which see short operating durarions, seldom reaching full operating temp and such.

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mjhpadi said:
Tomc612 said:
I use amsoil 5w30 every 5k. Still very clean when I drain. ^-^
Now that would really bother me...if an oil still looks clean after 5K miles, it would put up a red flag for me that it's not doing a good job of absorbing the bad stuff produced by the engine.  I know all the oils I have used over the past 15 years look really dirty after 3K miles...which, by my thinking indicates that they are removing the nasty stuff from the engine.  Maybe if someone explains why an oil would still look clean after 5K miles, I would be more comfortable with it.
Don't know the answer for sure but I'm going to take a shot at saying that the "dirty oil" results from the oil breaking down. The bad stuff the engine produces is broken down oil so if it comes out clean it isn't breaking down.
 
IHeartGroceries said:
It contributes heavily to viscosity losses. Really, shearing may not be the correct terminology. Shearing occurs from VI modifiers breaking down over time, through regular use. Fuel dilution is exactly as it sounds - oil diluted with gasoline. It's the same effect, but slightly different causes.


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Yes I typed that wrong...  Im used to talking about motorcraft oil shearing  "like the 5/50 used in the gt500"
too much fuel in the oil...  but what gets me  , you can set the OCI light to come on at 5k, 7500 or 10 K
that is way too far... I will use my next sample to decide how long to run mine for.
in my other Fords they get a yearly oil change.
 
MC filters are among the best for performance/price.  One of the few exceptions is in glock-coma's case, where (I think) he finds a Fram filter to run better than the MC.
 
SHOdded said:
MC filters are among the best for performance/price.  One of the few exceptions is in glock-coma's case, where (I think) he finds a Fram filter to run better than the MC.
This seems to be the case for me. At every startup I would get a very faint and quick "chatter ", now that I switched to fram ultra I have not heard it. And yes, I do listen for it on every startup.

2010 RCM non PP
K&N panel filter
sp534 @ 30
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more to come.....

 
For me its the MC-FL500S all the way with a magnetic oil drain plug to collect any metal shavings or particles thats being distributed.
 
ZSHO said:
For me its the MC-FL500S all the way with a magnetic oil drain plug to collect any metal shavings or particles thats being distributed.
That magnetic drain plug just went on the short list. Sounds like a good thing to be able to monitor.

Mobil 5w/30 full syn with MC filter at 5k intervals.

Rich

 
breeves002 said:
I use semi-synthetic Motorcraft 5w-20 (what Ford puts in) and a motorcraft filter (FL400S for my motor, FL500S for 2010+) every 6k miles or 6 months. I think its important to use the right weight oil so the VCT doesn't get messed up. Also important to change the oil and filter enough to keep the cam phasers from getting clogged.

In my 2000 Sable I used Mobil 1 High Milage 5w-30 and a FL820S Filter. That car had 140k on it when I sold it though.

thatsmrgimp2u said:
Anyone using pennzoil platinum? A lot of the euro guys have been using that and amsoil for their DI cars with great results. Mobil-1 is awesome in many cars but it sheers a lot in my current DI car, so most avoid it. I would be very curious to see an oil analysis for mobil-1 on the eco motors. If all is well with 5w-30 penz platinum is a great bang for your buck oil. I used to buy amsoil but its hard to come by around here and expensive by comparison.
I'm using pennzoil Plat not sure what weight whatever says in my manual. Should I be using 30? It performs the same or better then mobil1 in the cold start department so far. I did just receive my test kit in mail will my ford dealer fill the bottle for me ?
 
Interesting Vid...

I'm a fan of Amsoil Signature synthetic engine oil (5W20)... All synthetics seen to lubricate and flow well. All are pretty good. My choice was base on  the three areas where Amsoil simply eclipse the others in testing: (1) extremely low NOACK volatility rating, which is very important in GDI with turbo, (2) the off the scale resistance to high temp shear, and (3) the Amsoil synthetic also has the lowest cold cranking viscosity despite best high temp lubrication, so it circulates well very early. Yep I do pay more...my car is worth it to me and I change oil and filter every 4-5K miles despite Amsoil's claim that it can go as much as 20K.
 
BiGMaC said:
Interesting Vid...

I'm a fan of Amsoil Signature synthetic engine oil (5W20)... All synthetics seen to lubricate and flow well. All are pretty good. My choice was base on  the three areas where Amsoil simply eclipse the others in testing: (1) extremely low NOACK volatility rating, which is very important in GDI with turbo, (2) the off the scale resistance to high temp shear, and (3) the Amsoil synthetic also has the lowest cold cranking viscosity despite best high temp lubrication, so it circulates well very early. Yep I do pay more...my car is worth it to me and I change oil and filter every 4-5K miles despite Amsoil's claim that it can go as much as 20K.
I couldn't Agree more.

I know no matter what oil I use I will not get the 1 year  20,000 mile oil change interval that I get on my Mustang Gt, but I still want to use premium oils in the Explorer.

I am going to do some oil analysis to see Exactly how many miles I need to change the oil. There is not a lot that can be done, Besides choosing  oils that Resist the effects of fuel dilution.

I may use this oil next go round
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/gasoline/sae-10w-30-signature-series-100-percent-synthetic-motor-oil/?GroupID=176&zo=1667299

It has a 5.3 NOACK Volatility,
 
FPO said:
BiGMaC said:
Interesting Vid...

I'm a fan of Amsoil Signature synthetic engine oil (5W20)... All synthetics seen to lubricate and flow well. All are pretty good. My choice was base on  the three areas where Amsoil simply eclipse the others in testing: (1) extremely low NOACK volatility rating, which is very important in GDI with turbo, (2) the off the scale resistance to high temp shear, and (3) the Amsoil synthetic also has the lowest cold cranking viscosity despite best high temp lubrication, so it circulates well very early. Yep I do pay more...my car is worth it to me and I change oil and filter every 4-5K miles despite Amsoil's claim that it can go as much as 20K.
I couldn't Agree more.

I know no matter what oil I use I will not get the 1 year  20,000 mile oil change interval that I get on my Mustang Gt, but I still want to use premium oils in the Explorer.

I am going to do some oil analysis to see Exactly how many miles I need to change the oil. There is not a lot that can be done, Besides choosing  oils that Resist the effects of fuel dilution.

I may use this oil next go round
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/gasoline/sae-10w-30-signature-series-100-percent-synthetic-motor-oil/?GroupID=176&zo=1667299

It has a 5.3 NOACK Volatility,

I would never recommend using other than the recommended oil weight called for by the manufacturer... but the Amsoil Signature synthetic 5W20 has a 2.7 NOACK volatility and the 5W30 has a 3.1
 
BiGMaC said:
I would never recommend using other than the recommended oil weight called for by the manufacturer... but the Amsoil Signature synthetic 5W20 has a 2.7 NOACK volatility and the 5W30 has a 3.1

you mean 6.3 -----> http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/gasoline/sae-5w-20-signature-series-100-percent-synthetic-motor-oil/?GroupID=10049&&zo=1667299
and
7.5 ? -----> http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/gasoline/sae-5w-30-signature-series-100-percent-synthetic-motor-oil/?GroupID=174&zo=1667299
 
FPO said:
BiGMaC said:
I would never recommend using other than the recommended oil weight called for by the manufacturer... but the Amsoil Signature synthetic 5W20 has a 2.7 NOACK volatility and the 5W30 has a 3.1

you mean 6.3 -----> http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/gasoline/sae-5w-20-signature-series-100-percent-synthetic-motor-oil/?GroupID=10049&&zo=1667299
and
7.5 ? -----> http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/motor-oil/gasoline/sae-5w-30-signature-series-100-percent-synthetic-motor-oil/?GroupID=174&zo=1667299

interesting and I will stand corrected!... but stay with the ASS oil (hehe)... I can actually find NOACK results throughout the range we both quoted, and I could be misreading from going fast... but when it was head to testing it was still the lowest... weird... I noticed that weight affects it of course... Oh Well, anyway I am a converted royal purple guy as far as engine oil
 
My 13' sho calls for 5w-30... Mac are you sure about yours?
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