2010 Taurus SHO TT Replacement in Garage

geophb said:
Yikes! Live in rust belt?
Hows loose is your rear turbo wastegate flapper without the arm connected if you dont mind? Mine is rattling, just tryin to compare.

Southeast Minnesota so you betcha on the rust belt! Luckily this is not my vehicle.

It is loose but not significantly. Same with the exhaust wheel on the turbo. But it is obviously bad. Should be dropping the turbos this weekend.
 
Macgyver said:
I think most modern turbo cars are now H20 and oil ?

Coming from the diesel community I was unaware and will have to do more reading. The front one is out and carnage below..
 
Believe me, not the worst we have seen, LOL.  Glad you were able to get it the heck outta there, tho!
 
SHOdded said:
Believe me, not the worst we have seen, LOL.  Glad you were able to get it the heck outta there, tho!

Four bolts left on the rear now. The oil feed and three exhaust manifold bolts.
 
glock-coma said:
When I replaced my ptu it also called to lower the sub frame for removal. 

I just removed the lower front engine
Mount(dog bone ) and used a ratchet strap to pull the engine forward towards the radiator.
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This is the bracket, you can see the bolt compared to where it’s supposed to mount.
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Just to confirm, you removed the entire dog bone mount? Does it need to be supported while removing?

 
SierraTBD said:
glock-coma said:
When I replaced my ptu it also called to lower the sub frame for removal. 

I just removed the lower front engine
Mount(dog bone ) and used a ratchet strap to pull the engine forward towards the radiator.
de99ca7dd758419bb3b3409ab44b6776.jpg

This is the bracket, you can see the bolt compared to where it’s supposed to mount.
8f975d00bba3601f709487447620a190.jpg

Just to confirm, you removed the entire dog bone mount? Does it need to be supported while removing?
I just unbolted the engine side of the mount but removal of the entire dog bone will not negatively affect anything.

The engine will still be supported by the cradle mounts so I did not use any other supports.
The dog bone only limits front to back engine movement.
 
glock-coma said:
SierraTBD said:
glock-coma said:
When I replaced my ptu it also called to lower the sub frame for removal. 

I just removed the lower front engine
Mount(dog bone ) and used a ratchet strap to pull the engine forward towards the radiator.
de99ca7dd758419bb3b3409ab44b6776.jpg

This is the bracket, you can see the bolt compared to where it’s supposed to mount.
8f975d00bba3601f709487447620a190.jpg

Just to confirm, you removed the entire dog bone mount? Does it need to be supported while removing?
I just unbolted the engine side of the mount but removal of the entire dog bone will not negatively affect anything.

The engine will still be supported by the cradle mounts so I did not use any other supports.
The dog bone only limits front to back engine movement.

Got it, safe to say it’s only a couple inches gained?
 
SierraTBD said:
glock-coma said:
SierraTBD said:
glock-coma said:
When I replaced my ptu it also called to lower the sub frame for removal. 

I just removed the lower front engine
Mount(dog bone ) and used a ratchet strap to pull the engine forward towards the radiator.
de99ca7dd758419bb3b3409ab44b6776.jpg

This is the bracket, you can see the bolt compared to where it’s supposed to mount.
8f975d00bba3601f709487447620a190.jpg

Just to confirm, you removed the entire dog bone mount? Does it need to be supported while removing?
I just unbolted the engine side of the mount but removal of the entire dog bone will not negatively affect anything.

The engine will still be supported by the cradle mounts so I did not use any other supports.
The dog bone only limits front to back engine movement.

Got it, safe to say it’s only a couple inches gained?
Yes, but it definitely was needed.
I’m really not even sure how the old PTU came out without doing it lol.

 
Well hopefully it helps as much as it did with the PTU as it does with this rear turbo. Feels like over engineering........
 
I can tell you I just did this same job last week. We dropped the cradle but I was also at a shop on a lift. Pulling made getting the turbos out 100 times easier. No room to get that rear turbo out period.
 
shoNoff said:
I can tell you I just did this same job last week. We dropped the cradle but I was also at a shop on a lift. Pulling made getting the turbos out 100 times easier. No room to get that rear turbo out period.

That just seems like such overkill considering. I can only imagine the laundry list that needs to be done to drop that subframe..
 
Yea on your back I agree. But honestly I got to look at everything. And we replaced every oil and coolant line. Made doing the job 100 times easier. But we also decided from the get go to drop the entire thing. To be honest I bet it didn’t take much longer on a lift dropping the subframe
 
shoNoff said:
Yea on your back I agree. But honestly I got to look at everything. And we replaced every oil and coolant line. Made doing the job 100 times easier. But we also decided from the get go to drop the entire thing. To be honest I bet it didn’t take much longer on a lift dropping the subframe

Brakes, steering, suspension, electrical, cooling, and everything in between. Definitely not worth all that..
 
shoNoff said:
Entire job took us 9/10 hours. Ford pays 10.5 flat rate.

Feeling much better today, was able to gain clear access to all three turbo mounting bolts and oil feed from the top. After rotating the engine and removing the factory engine lift point everything opened up. Just need a longer impact extension (10”) and longer impact T45 from HF and will be all set. Lots of heat and penetrating coming fluid this week. Now to enjoy the holiday..
 
shoNoff said:
Awesome good work man. That has to be a bear to do on your back.

The oil feed and exhaust bolts were the worst from the top side. Altogether removed the majority of the intake, EGR (I think?), shock mount cross over bracket, and loosened wiper cowl (couldn’t get the wiper arms to come off ironically). On the underside I removed the front dog bone completely, loosened up the rear and pulled forward with a ratchet strap. Worked like a dream and I give all credit to glock-coma for that. Obviously drained the oil and removed the oil filter.

My question is now what other maintenance should be done? Should I look at potential fluid buildup in the intercooler or changing PTU fluid? Any advice much appreciated as always. Not my vehicle but would rather address the other areas now rather than later.

 
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