Dxlnt1 said:
Has anyone been able speak with LMS, L.E.T. and/or Unleashed and get their input? Would be awesome for if THE ecoboost tuners had something to say on this topic as well.
Since fuel delivery one of the biggest hinderances with these engine platform, a better fuel with more timing has to mean more power right? And IF that holds true, some of our cravings for more power can be addressed seemingly. If all of our tunes can be made to say run on an equivalent 96 octane fuel, that would seemingly add 10-25 hp? Im guessing but my 91 octane tune vs some you guys 93 octane fuel is yielding almost half second better track times and higher trap speeds.
I think the best case scenario, after reading 6 pages (and truly understanding a smaller portion of the big picture BND is very carefully laying out) is that this could take the place of meth.
You are correct that it can and should replace Methanol. There really isn't any btu value to Methanol in that it has 65,000 btu per gallon, Ethanol at 87,500 btu per gallon while gasoline has 126,000 btu per gallon. The cooling effect is what you are after with Methanol. Being able to utilize the energy more effectively with greater expansion of gasses during combustion, the pressure wave acceleration will produce more effective power and torque while not only cooling it off with better potential to kinetic energy release but also copious lubricity that really will greatly increase the life of the rings and cylinder components in these engines! Doing this without eating your bearings.....and everything else like corrosive Methanol!
Therefore, I doubt the tunes will be improved using any of the boosters (BND, is 'booster' the correct term since you explicitly stated ACES IV is not considered an additive).
I would term it a catalyst in function and reaction. Think of additives like Elmers Glue and ACES IV more like Epoxy. Once the reaction happens, it is going to harden up. Same with ACES IV. Once it is in the fuel it becomes part of it and then responds to the combustion as I stated earlier.
Let me be clear- my opinion at this point is that the best we are looking at is a choice between installing a meth kit, or using ACES IV booster. As far as tunes go, I would assume they would be the same as a typical meth setup.
If this is the case, I think this is a pretty fantastic scenario. The difference (I think) would be that you must use the booster at every fillup, where meth usage could be controlled.
Yes, you would use ACES IV in every tankful. The real advantage here is that at worse case scenario, you will have your rings, bores and valves last significantly longer since they are clean, cooler, and copiously lubricated from burning ACES IV. Not only no damage but serious reduction of wear....6 times less ring and bore wear, 4 times less stem and guide wear and 5 times less valve impact face and seat damage too. Provides the opportunity to have integrity of the componentry much longer than what FORD would have designed into this platform. The oil analysis also bares this out as well with little or no nickel in the sample from Jacks truck with 16,328 miles on it!
BND- Thank you for joining the site.
Your welcome. When I commit to a platform after being invited to do so, we bring all our expertise to the forefront to assist our customers in the best way possible....whether engine, transmission, PTU, differential, steering or coolant.....along with fuel.
This product went from snakeoil that I disregarded when the post was originally made, to a set of products I am keeping on my radar. You have piece-mailed throughout your posts what you would recommend for our cars, which is great info. Could you flat out spell it out in one post that we can reference to better make a decision?
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