Blown engine-Replaced

Grease monkeys that turn wrenches should turn wrenches and not speak about things they dont know about...typically their usefulness is from the neck down

I guess the reason the oem's produce extra engines is to repair failures from tuned motors

We just got a new long block on my wifes kia with 30k on it and its bone stock and never sees more than 4k rpm wonder how that one blew up?

Sometimes engines just blow...until every rod and piston is xrayed you cannot rule out a failure due to bad material

Bad tunes can also absolutely take a motor out in a single wot pull....best to know your tuner and have everyone be clear about the goals and methods for obtaining those goals

I work in quality control and have a background in metallurgy...not uncommon for material to be bad from the begginning
 
If you find a low mileage donor car you get some nice additional parts like trans, ptu, rear end, brake calipers, etc to keep as spares or sell off.  If it is a 2013+ you will get the larger factory brakes to put on your car too.  ;-)
 
Got the dealer down another $2k. Still pricey, but gets a 3year 100k warranty on motor and 2 year on turbos. Got a small shop that can do it for less than that, reman parts and just 1 yr warranty, but they are not near me so I would have to haul it there.
Went and drove a few cars, again, just to see what is out there in small suv, car range and there ain't much that I could really afford.
Damn, I hate throwing away money....


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Interesting dilemma you have.

I think time should be should be your best friend right now and use it to make the best decision. I'm hoping you have another form of transportation as well?

What you don't want to happen is the coulda, shoulda, woulda scenario to unfold. Maybe the dealer will come down another 1k or a nice used engine will pop up in a few weeks...who knows. Please keep us posted, would love to know the outcome.


 
Decided to go document the car and damage since it is out in the lot without a mechanic hovering over my shoulder. I jacked up passenger side, took off lower cover and found this. (attached) I think there is another, but can't see it without being on a hoist.

Wife is telling me to just do it at the dealer it is at. She is really worried about warranty work that might be needed later. It's not that much  more than the other shops I have contacted. Still waiting on final price from Livernois for a stage 1 install.
 
Was able to pull my basic logs from Torque. This is toward the end of the log, but at the time of destruction I think. Guess I was getting on it a bit more than I thought from the stop light...
 
firewater88 said:
I jacked up passenger side, took off lower cover and found this. (attached) I think there is another, but can't see it without being on a hoist.

Did you find the source of the oil leak? 
 
midnightSun said:
firewater88 said:
I jacked up passenger side, took off lower cover and found this. (attached) I think there is another, but can't see it without being on a hoist.

Did you find the source of the oil leak?
I'm pretty sure it was the gapping hole in the side of the block lol. 
 
I've been following some engine destruction threads on the F150ecoboost.net forum and I'm trying to discern how widespread this problem is and whether it is good to just cut bait and get a non-Ecoboost powered truck.
 
Devin said:
I've been following some engine destruction threads on the F150ecoboost.net forum and I'm trying to discern how widespread this problem is and whether it is good to just cut bait and get a non-Ecoboost powered truck.

http://forums.corral.net/forums/s-197-mustang-gt-2011-2014/1260052-blown-up-2011-5-0-engine-not-coverd-ford.html

The 5.0 V8 blows up too, every engine has its problems.

EDIT: The thread I linked to may have been the owners fault, but I have read about mustang and F150 owners with 5.0 issues.
 
Problem is, the transverse 3.5EB production is so small compared to those engines that every one that selfdestructs hurts.
 
Rockstar04 said:
Devin said:
I've been following some engine destruction threads on the F150ecoboost.net forum and I'm trying to discern how widespread this problem is and whether it is good to just cut bait and get a non-Ecoboost powered truck.
http://forums.corral.net/forums/s-197-mustang-gt-2011-2014/1260052-blown-up-2011-5-0-engine-not-coverd-ford.html

The 5.0 V8 blows up too, every engine has its problems.

EDIT: The thread I linked to may have been the owners fault, but I have read about mustang and F150 owners with 5.0 issues.

I certainly am not saying that other engines don't have problems. But coming from the 3.0l SHO community, seeing a single engine blow up is fairly rare. Seeing a thread where ten different people chime in over the course of two years with holes in their blocks is astounding.

Rereading my post, I think it'd be good to clarify. I don't want to get rid of the truck, but what I am wondering is how widespread this issue is, and what best practices can be used to limit the chances of throwing a rod through the block.
 
Best bet, keep it 100% stock while under warranty (If it blows, its Fords dime not yours), and after the warranty is up, get a tune that changes the shift points so the motor doesn't have to lug as much in the lower RPM's to avoid LSPI.
 
Hey, Devin!  Throw up an intro for yourself over in the New Members Intro subforum, we'd appreciate it:
http://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,14.0.html

Do you have any warranty on your truck?  Is it Ford or aftermarket?  As long as major damage is not caused, dealers/Ford tend to honor warranty on breakdowns.

New or used, you should always have a known starting point before you tune or add mods.  With used, it is advisable to get fresh fluid in everywhere:  engine, transmission, PTU, RDU, cooling system, and ideally, the brake system.  Check/empty the intercooler.  Get new spark plugs in there.  Then let it prove itself to you over the course of 500-1000 miles.  I would datalog during this time, just to have a baseline.  Check the plugs at the end of that 500-1000 miles to verify the truck is running properly.

Then if all is going well, load up a tune/thermostat/CAI/downpipes/exhaust.  With the trucks, the CAI has a relatively major impact on performance, so definitely worth it.  Keep datalogging to get an idea of how your truck is performing.  An upgraded intercooler is also available for the trucks, and will be worth it.

Post up your datalogs if you want extra eyes on them.  Don't hesitate to ask questions.
 
In researching the motor replacement, I tried to search for the part number of the assembly they gave me.
FOAA5Z-6006-D is the Service Engine Assembly that I have but can't find anything on it.
Does anyone have a place to look up those part numbers to see what is included with that?


Thanks
 
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