Crossing fingers. Car in the shop for parts swapping..

[ajpturbo]

I think he is overboosting about 2-4 psi as it nears redline which is a lot considering boost generally drops slightly below commanded at redline

I think there is a mechanical problem and then the ecu is trying to control torque via other means but because it’s a mechanical problem it can’t and the car starts running bad

If that flapper (wastegate) in the turbo is not opening to slow down the turbine it will overboost and it will be hard for the ecu to control the boost if that push rod is not opening that flapper and the exhaust can’t bypass the turbine wheel

His wastegate duty is not rising nor is the boost target going up stock or tuned so that’s why I think mechanical...and there really aren’t many parts to the turbo boost control and he has changed the solenoid already...canister, push rod and flapper

 

[TopherSho]

I think he is overboosting about 2-4 psi as it nears redline which is a lot considering boost generally drops slightly below commanded at redline

I think there is a mechanical problem and then the ecu is trying to control torque via other means but because it’s a mechanical problem it can’t and the car starts running bad

If that flapper (wastegate) in the turbo is not opening to slow down the turbine it will overboost and it will be hard for the ecu to control the boost if that push rod is not opening that flapper and the exhaust can’t bypass the turbine wheel

His wastegate duty is not rising nor is the boost target going up stock or tuned so that’s why I think mechanical...and there really aren’t many parts to the turbo boost control and he has changed the solenoid already...canister, push rod and flapper

yeah that is my line of thought .. i know its mechanical and that limits wheres there to do. 

sigh. oh well it should run awesome with all the new bits.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

I think he is overboosting about 2-4 psi as it nears redline which is a lot considering boost generally drops slightly below commanded at redline

I think there is a mechanical problem and then the ecu is trying to control torque via other means but because it’s a mechanical problem it can’t and the car starts running bad

If that flapper (wastegate) in the turbo is not opening to slow down the turbine it will overboost and it will be hard for the ecu to control the boost if that push rod is not opening that flapper and the exhaust can’t bypass the turbine wheel

His wastegate duty is not rising nor is the boost target going up stock or tuned so that’s why I think mechanical...and there really aren’t many parts to the turbo boost control and he has changed the solenoid already...canister, push rod and flapper

yeah that is my line of thought .. i know its mechanical and that limits wheres there to do. 

sigh. oh well it should run awesome with all the new bits.

Well, that explains the lack of over boost codes. apparently those aren't set unless the difference in commanded is 4+ PSI.

 

[TopherSho]

good to know thank you sir.. that explains a ton actually... 

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

good to know thank you sir.. that explains a ton actually...

I just wonder how much troubleshooting your dealership actually did....sigh.

Cause I know you asked bunches of questions, lol.

I really hope the new snails fix your issue.

 

[TopherSho]

good to know thank you sir.. that explains a ton actually...

I just wonder how much troubleshooting your dealership actually did....sigh.

Cause I know you asked bunches of questions, lol.

I really hope the new snails fix your issue.

I knew right away i was in trouble when I said 'spark table' the *shop manager* look bewildered.  he was maybe 30..

 

[TopherSho]

Well no dice.  Ford can't figure out the ignition issue. They *think* it is related to the remote start. 

Question to the Gurus - how can i tell 'what' remote start i have? 

i have a FOB with the markings:
goh-pcmini
IC 3671a10247510

That any good for identifying the unit .. the dealership claims it is not 'theirs' .. it looks like this .. http://www.remotesunlimited.com/specify.php?search=1&type=fcc&search_fcc=GOH-PCMINI

the unit on the top left is what i have. is it generic??

 

[ajpturbo]

Jeezus Topher ....when did it start having this ignition problem also?...is it possible the meh install messed up something electrically? Like fried something or a wiring issue..maybe you do have a bad pcm? Just crazy how there can be this many problems at once

 

[ZSHO]

Well no dice.  Ford can't figure out the ignition issue. They *think* it is related to the remote start. 

Question to the Gurus - how can i tell 'what' remote start i have? 

i have a FOB with the markings:
goh-pcmini
IC 3671a10247510

That any good for identifying the unit .. the dealership claims it is not 'theirs' .. it looks like this .. http://www.remotesunlimited.com/specify.php?search=1&type=fcc&search_fcc=GOH-PCMINI

the unit on the top left is what i have. is it generic??

Type in your Vin number! hope it works!  Z  https://www.motorcraftservice.com/Keycode/KeycodeLookup

 

[TopherSho]

Jeezus Topher ....when did it start having this ignition problem also?...is it possible the meh install messed up something electrically? Like fried something or a wiring issue..maybe you do have a bad pcm? Just crazy how there can be this many problems at once

F&&ked if i know.  im over it.  ' ' close to selling it.

 

[SHOdded]

Dealer installed remote start ... uh oh.  Seems like finding a shop competent with electrical diagnostics would be the next step, given the ignition issue.  Could be as simple as a poor ground.  As far as PCM, water/dirt intrusion into the connectors has been an issue sometimes.  So pull the (3?) connectors off at the PCM, check/clean/grease/reconnect.  See if that makes a difference.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

Here's my fob.

FYI the wiring on my "dealer installed" Ford remote start is a complete $h!tSHO.

 

[polskifacet]

Where is the PCM on these cars?

 

[SHOdded]

Under the cowl panel grille, I believe.  Follow the PCM connectors to exact location.

 

[ZSHO]

THE PCM MODULE AT CENTER OF FIREWALL UNDER THE HOOD! UNDER COWL COVER!. IIRC.  Z

 

[ZSHO]

Its towards the center Drivers side under the seal!  Z

 

[TopherSho]

I asked them to unplug/inspect and re-plug.  well see if that even gets done. 

 

[SHOdded]

opcorn:

 

[TopherSho]

opcorn:

Right !?  I mean what a **** show ... (no pun intended)

 

[SHOdded]

At a total loss for words right now, seriously.  But I tell ya, at times like these, it is good to have a trusted mechanic/troubleshooter handy.  I fondly remember Kevin Mahoney of ProTech Automotive.  I would hang around sometimes just to watch him work ...