Disappointing Power

[JimiJak]

Better yet, as long as it's not the a bad OCC install:
If you're not hitting 0-60 times under 7 sec, there's def a problem and it needs to go back to the dealer...
Let them do all the hard work to figure it out.

 

[POPSTAGE2]

Good to know. So if the can is installed correctly, and it's not a vacuum issue that's causing your problem; my next guess would be a turbo leak somewhere in the plastic charge pipes once the boost reaches a certain pressure. So let's say it's a leak that only happens at 10psi, you'll only get 10psi, and any additional boost will be lost even though you're WOT.

I'm assuming you're not throwing any CELs and you're not missing on any cylinders or anything, right?

You're stock, other than the catch can, right?

Correct, no codes no miss and stock.
Plastic charge pipe would be like the intake pipes like the rear that I tapped into?

 

[JimiJak]

Negative.
You tapped into the intake pipes. Those go from the air cleaner to the turbo. From there, the turbo builds air pressure, and charges the "charge pipes" that then flow to the CAC (Charge Air Cooler aka intercooler) and from there, into your intake manifold.

Your eBOVs (electronic Blow Off Valves) are located on the charge pipes.

 

[POPSTAGE2]

Gotcha...thanks!

 

[steve142857]

Expect low 13's stock and mid to upper 12's tuned... add a few mods and tune tweaks you get low 12's... current only 2 SHO's have run below 12... they were both meth injected.
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Did I miss the second one to get into the 11's?
POPSTAGE2: Try a 0-60 and see if you can get close to 6-6.5 seconds.
Maybe, I don't know, but there could be wires touching (shaffing?) which limits the power. It was frequent on SHO in 2010-2012...
I would definitely bring it to the dealer to have that fixed before tuning it.
But once fixed, I would definitely tune it! lol

 

[REDSHOCGO]

Hi All-
I have about 500 miles on my wife's Sport now. Wanted to break it in like Stacy suggested to set the rings in. But diddn't want to get to happy with high rpm's untill the catch can install do to the the poor pcv, evacuation system. So up till about 300 miles I would load the engine down using the paddle shifters at between 1/2 and 3/4 throttle. (worked great) Power felt good.

Now with the catch can Installed I drove it pretty hard with full throttle blasts. Pretty disappointed with the full trottle power. It seems it has the same power output at 1/2 and 3/4 throttle as it does at full. There is no torque steer. Is it possible you may have created a boost leak with the can installation?

Before we bought the 2014, I was able to test drive a 2013 with 25K on the clock for a week...granted it was when it was cold and we had better air but that thing had scary torque steer and had a lot more full throttle power. when you nailed it at 55-60 mph the torque steer was incredible, and frankly was worried that it was to much for the wife...not with our 2014...it has just a hint and just doesn't feel like it has the power.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Guy

 

[BiGMaC]

IMHO... Time for a chat with your dealer service dept.  :-

 

[bpd1151]

Expect low 13's stock and mid to upper 12's tuned... add a few mods and tune tweaks you get low 12's... current only 2 SHO's have run below 12... they were both meth injected.

To date, there's only been ONE SHO that's broken into the 11's.

That was FirstSHO (Mike) with an 11.95.

 

[BiGMaC]

Expect low 13's stock and mid to upper 12's tuned... add a few mods and tune tweaks you get low 12's... current only 2 SHO's have run below 12... they were both meth injected.

To date, there's only been ONE SHO that's broken into the 11's.

That was FirstSHO (Mike) with an 11.95.

Gentlemen... I stand corrected and bow to your wisdom.  :beer2:

Apologies to steve!

 

[Needmoreboost]

Expect low 13's stock and mid to upper 12's tuned... add a few mods and tune tweaks you get low 12's... current only 2 SHO's have run below 12... they were both meth injected.

To date, there's only been ONE SHO that's broken into the 11's.

That was FirstSHO (Mike) with an 11.95.

Gentlemen... I stand corrected and bow to your wisdom.  :beer2:

Apologies to steve!

BigMac it's all good.  I'm a Big Mac too. 

 

[JimiJak]

Is it possible you may have created a boost leak with the can installation?

I would still love to see a pic of your can install. The more we dig into this, the more I wonder if you tapped the charge pipes instead of the intake pipes...
Although...if the check valves are still intact in that line, you shouldn't be loosing any turbo pressure...not to mention I would be very surprised if the fitting would hold on with 15 pounds of pressure.

Still though...unless it's just a red herring, the OCC set up needs examined even if just to rule it out.

Any chance you can get a picture up soon?

 

[explorergotoluvit]

i have a 2013 xsport and it has tons for toque steer and i actually hate it.. its the worst thing about the car if your not holding on with 2 hands it can get away from ya

 

[JimiJak]

i have a 2013 xsport and it has tons for toque steer and i actually hate it.. its the worst thing about the car if your not holding on with 2 hands it can get away from ya

LOL ^^^

True story!
Although, I may not like the TQ steer...I love what comes with it...TORQUE!!

 

[explorergotoluvit]

dont see y it can't be full time awd then this 2wd until slipage i guess im use to one of the best awd  subaru

 

[POPSTAGE2]

Is it possible you may have created a boost leak with the can installation?

I would still love to see a pic of your can install. The more we dig into this, the more I wonder if you tapped the charge pipes instead of the intake pipes...
Although...if the check valves are still intact in that line, you shouldn't be loosing any turbo pressure...not to mention I would be very surprised if the fitting would hold on with 15 pounds of pressure.

Still though...unless it's just a red herring, the OCC set up needs examined even if just to rule it out.

Any chance you can get a picture up soon?

I'll get you a picture.
But I tapped into the rear intake pipe maybe 5 to 7 inches after the "Y".
I used the factory nipple on the front pipe that was originally connected to the front valve cover.

BigMac- I think maybe you're right but would like to figure this out myself if I could. Going to order the Aeroforce boost gauge unless yous guys :icon_lolI'm from wisconsin) think there's something better?

Again, thanks for the help!

 

[Needmoreboost]

One simple and small boost leak can cause a milleu of problems and is very hard (without boost leak tester) to find.  I chased them a lot in my SRT4 until I went to tbar clamps.  Then again they were metal pipes not the plastic ones we have.  Wont work on ecoboost until you convert the hot and cold side pipes.

 

[BiGMaC]

One simple and small boost leak can cause a milleu of problems and is very hard (without boost leak tester) to find.  I chased them a lot in my SRT4 until I went to tbar clamps.  Then again they were metal pipes not the plastic ones we have.  Wont work on ecoboost until you convert the hot and cold side pipes.

The absolute truth, however uncommon!  Just why I spent the $ for hard hotpipes!...

 

[POPSTAGE2]

This first couple of pictures you can see the charge? pipe hose sits about a 1/2" from going on the whole way...I loosened the clamp (clamp was kinda loose) and slid the hose on all the way tighted, then took it out for a beat. About the same power. This picure is after the short drive...the hose slid back off from bottoming. Thinking this is normal as when the clamp is against the "barb" it will seal from pressure.
Sorry for the dark pics...was in a hurry this morning to get to work...

 

[BiGMaC]

The movement of the hose will always be there... the lower end of the hose is fixed to the stationary IC inlet and the hard charge pipe is secured to the manifold and moves 2-3 inches forward and back when the engine is revved.

If you have a boost leak it will take a R&R of each connectino and a check of the seal and function of the BoVs.... usually not a simple or quick thing...

 

[JimiJak]

This first couple of pictures you can see the charge? pipe hose sits about a 1/2" from going on the whole way...I loosened the clamp (clamp was kinda loose) and slid the hose on all the way tighted, then took it out for a beat. About the same power. This picure is after the short drive...the hose slid back off from bottoming. Thinking this is normal as when the clamp is against the "barb" it will seal from pressure.
Sorry for the dark pics...was in a hurry this morning to get to work...

Thanks for the pics. After work, would it be possible to get more pics of your Rx connections? Just want to rule that out before moving forward...