EB Flex vs Mazdaspeed3 (cai,tip,and exh)

Josephm

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I got spanked. Unfortunately for me, I told him to get the hit, at a 30 mph roll, and it was ugly. He pulled BUS'S on me, and what makes this even worse. ITS MY BROTHER! We get back to his house a little later, and i tell him i want the 'Hit' next time because it was hard to tell when he got in it, til he was into boost. REGARDLESS.....I would like a tune, and then see how this 'minivan' does.
 
Those cars are roll race champions. They pull very hard up until about 120. I'd be surprised if a tune really helped you that much if you guys are going to go again from a roll. Talk him into a dig race ;-)

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Mazdaspeed 3 are supposed to run around 14 sec at around 100mph (that is with a good launch but trap speed is not affected by launching at all).
Stock Flex EB should run about 14.3 at about 97mph no launch issue guaranteed.
I have a Lincoln MKT EB 2010 which I never raced when stock, but with just stage 4+ tune, that's it, I ran 13.3 at 103mph... So, from a roll, you should be able to beat him slightly, from a dig, he will have to bend over!
Good luck!
 
Yes i knew how fast his car was, and but i did not think his 30-100 was that fast. I had more faith in the EB. Yes a tune is in the works.Hopefully sooner than later
 
I have a tuned SHO PP and raced a speed3 with an intake upgrade.  I just inched away from him from a roll. 
 
I wonder if the AWD on the SHO and FLEX becomes a disadvantage when racing from a roll compared to a dead stop?
 
I can say I've been the proud owner of both the Speed3 and a SHO.  I loved that little Mazda. I traded it because my kids got too big and there was zero room in the back seat. Otherwise, I probably would have kept it!!

Don't get me wrong, I love my SHO too!! Totally different cars. I wish I could have kept them both!


 
Here's another pic.

It's hard to tell for me what was faster. My butt dyno told me my Speed3 was faster than my SHO.
 
Love that first shot with all the red.  I thought pretty hard about the 3 before I got the SHO.  No regrets! 
 
melc said:
I wonder if the AWD on the SHO and FLEX becomes a disadvantage when racing from a roll compared to a dead stop?

When racing a car with a much smaller powertrain loss percentage, it most certainly does.

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Stock versus stock the SHO is faster, the numbers prove that. I would say that with the same mods applied to each platform the same holds true. Maybe the big difference is at the end of the day one person has a luxury car and the other has a warmed over econobox.
 
Stock for stock from a dig. Yes. I'll post a video of my sho with an intake and a tune vs my buddy's 93 octane (can tuned) speed 3. I'm fully expecting him to hand me my ass from a 40 roll.

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SRT82ECOBOOST said:
Stock versus stock the SHO is faster, the numbers prove that. I would say that with the same mods applied to each platform the same holds true. Maybe the big difference is at the end of the day one person has a luxury car and the other has a warmed over econobox.

I love my SHO....don't get me wrong. But, a warmed over econobox??? Man, I don't know if you ever drove one, but that was the best handling car (stock) that I have ever driven. I took many laps on a road track, and, seriously, the Speed3 would walk the SHO any day.

Anyways, I am pretty satisfied with my SHO (minus all the silly rattles).
 
I would need numbers to prove to that a Mazdaspeed 3, that is down 100+ hp and front wheel drive, would actually be faster around a true road course. According to Car and Driver the Taurus SHO pulled .86g, the Mazdaspeed 3 pulled .87, when ran through the 300 ft. diameter skidpad. Unless you are running on an autocross track in a mall parking lot, the Taurus SHO is going to be faster around a track.
 
i know my Mazda was a hell of a lot faster then my sho. but was far from stock.
the only reason the speed 3 aren't fast is because it is a hard car to get off the line in my opinion. even compared to other fwd.
once its moving tho they are monsters.
even around a track i would guarantee the Mazda is faster srt8 the sho just won't get up and go out of the corners like the mazda will stock for stock that is.
 
The entire time I had my speed I read tons of hate from other forums towards it. People have a hard time wrapping there head around how fast they are for the price. And think that there "prestigious" vehicles are better in every aspect. And Autox shouldn't even be part of this conversation. The speed is lighter and has a better power to weight ratio. Not to mention a crap ton of suspension support and what do we get? Springs?... We can't even buy a better sway bar setup yet.

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I really like the MS3, if i did not have a need to seat 6, i would of have got one. People really rag on it for some reason but i am willing to bet the fact it will beat a lot of higher HP cars, on auto X course. FORD made that engine, and they did a really good job, it makes power all the way throughout the RPM's except the K04 dives off toward red line.

EDIT; Maybe we have different version of econobox, but i never once thought that about a MS3. I suppose a wrx is a econobox? focus rs? evo?  To me when it has power everything, a DI engine, interior is above par, that is not the equivalent to a ecobox
 
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