JLT Oil Separator

RedCandySHO

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Just got an oil separator from JLT. Going to install it on the weekend, but if it's anything like their Mustang products....it will work awesome. Anyone have one already? Curious how much oil it actually collects over a set period of time....
 
RedCandySHO said:
Thanks. Don't get me started on UPR though... :0

LOL you sound like me...... When I was running in NMRA they offered to give me a front end kit and I just laughed why would I take out a PA racing front end for  something that is well you know...

I wonder how well an electric vacuum scavenger would work on these cars ?
 
RedCandySHO said:
Just got an oil separator from JLT. Going to install it on the weekend, but if it's anything like their Mustang products....it will work awesome. Anyone have one already? Curious how much oil it actually collects over a set period of time....

Can't wait for pics and results!
...hey, that reminds me; didn't SHOboat install some Moroso's a while back. Oh yeah...here it is. I wonder what ever happened with that??
 
JLT Oil Separator is installed.....will check it in a few weeks to see how much it catches. Simple install....comes with everything required to simply connect (Factory quick connectors etc.) it etc.
 
RX challenge:

You can do the same challenge, but bear in mind, the UPR is more effective than the JLT, so expect most to get pulled right past and still be ingested.

Anyone with any can that wants to do the test, you will never look at catchcans the same way again.

Up for testing the JLT with the RX behind it to show how much gets past it?  Any can that allows the oil to pass right through may give you a "placebo" effect thinking you are addressing the issue, but until to personally test and see you won't believe how much is pulled right past 99% of the cans on the market no matter what the brand, or what the manufacturer claims.
 
Looks like the RX catch can does collect blowby.  Blowby does tend to accumulate and gunk up the engine systems over time.  Supposed to be burnt up during the combustion process, but it does have to travel to get to the combustion chamber.  Guess what happens along the way?  That's right, unwanted deposits!!!  Not optimal for engine efficiency, and certainly not for cleanliness.
 
SHOdded said:
Looks like the RX catch can does collect blowby.  Blowby does tend to accumulate and gunk up the engine systems over time.  Supposed to be burnt up during the combustion process, but it does have to travel to get to the combustion chamber.  Guess what happens along the way?  That's right, unwanted deposits!!!  Not optimal for engine efficiency, and certainly not for cleanliness.

So engine cleaners such as Techron wouldnt be sufficient to clean those deposits? Just asking
 
Problem is you have a GDI engine, and a TC one at that.  So any cleaner you add to the fuel only gets to the injectors and the combustion chamber.  You miss cleaning the intake tract, the intake valves, the turbo system, you get the picture. 
 
SHOdded said:
Problem is you have a GDI engine, and a TC one at that.  So any cleaner you add to the fuel only gets to the injectors and the combustion chamber.  You miss cleaning the intake tract, the intake valves, the turbo system, you get the picture.

Point taken, duly noted. Thanks. Now gotta add this to list of things to do. But first brakes.
 
SHOdded said:
Problem is you have a GDI engine, and a TC one at that.  So any cleaner you add to the fuel only gets to the injectors and the combustion chamber.  You miss cleaning the intake tract, the intake valves, the turbo system, you get the picture. 

Point well taken Manu  :beer2: ... No fuel additive cleans the turbos, CAC and TB,  ....but there are some gains/cleaning of all components in direct contact with the combustion chamber with BG44 documented in the BG testing over a 61K time period in a 2011 SHO including the intake valves  :thumb:  ... It's here: http://www.bgprod.com/bgfueltest/ and dyno evidence of restored HP and TQ... Just as FYI
 
Right on, Tom!  And the beauty of the catch can theory/system is it is preventive, rather than curative.  Enough of us are fanatical about the insides of the engines as we are about the outside of our cars.
 
BiGMaC said:
SHOdded said:
Problem is you have a GDI engine, and a TC one at that.  So any cleaner you add to the fuel only gets to the injectors and the combustion chamber.  You miss cleaning the intake tract, the intake valves, the turbo system, you get the picture. 

Point well taken Manu  :beer2: ... No fuel additive cleans the turbos, CAC and TB,  ....but there are some gains/cleaning of all components in direct contact with the combustion chamber with BG44 documented in the BG testing over a 61K time period in a 2011 SHO including the intake valves  :thumb:  ... It's here: http://www.bgprod.com/bgfueltest/ and dyno evidence of restored HP and TQ... Just as FYI


On todays DI engines there is actually zero effect from BG (which I like and use in Port injection engines) as no where in the entire fuel and combustion chamber does it ever contact any area but the piston tops to prevent any of this. Even though they did the most long term test, it is physically impossible for it to even keep injectors clean as they are operating at 2,000 plus PSI vs the old 45-55 PSI when the injectors would build up deposits over time. What they DID improve was doing an upper induction cleaning to help and that will result in removing some of the deposits resulting in increased power.....but that is dealing with the issue AFTER the deposits form. Best to prevent them from the start, and only a can that stops all the oil mist and gunk can do that. A JLT or other can WILL help slow the formation, so never a waste to use a can that only catches part of the mix....but only a can that catches all will prevent it, and we have the RX challenge open to any can on the market.

Here are good illustrations showing:

This is a port injection system showing how the valves were constantly showered with fuel spray from the injector, and top tier fuels (shell, mobil, etc. ) with detergent additives and other cleaners added to the fuel tank:

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And here is direct injection. As you can see, no top tier fuel, no additive will ever touch the valves:

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And further, here are pictures of a LS1 head from a 98 vette with 140k miles on it and just look, not a spec of deposits anywhere the fuel spray made contact:

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Now here is a 2014 DI engine with 3200 miles on it...look close, the deposits are already forming, and the valve stem on the pic with it open shows the abrasive particles already begining to cause wear (and the guide will wear many times faster due to the material and hardness):

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Now, using an upper induction cleaning is fine a few times, but be aware that every time these hard deposits are broken loose some are forced between the piston and cylinder wall causing scouring (scratches) and that is NOT good, so use a BG or SeaFoam rarely.
 
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