K&N filter, drop in or whole set up?

I read the description on their website as it says something about Windstorm in one of their packages...
no image but it says something about a new tube and an airbox, not an open filter

Hmmmm



FoMoCoSHO said:
Livernois Motorsports said:
We recommend our Windstorm CAI for the Eco-boost platforms gain up to 10 additional horsepower! We just received a new shipment in. Get yours today!
Heads up!

Livernois Windstorm had no results on google.
 
I have the Airaid on my Flex, sounds cool but the rubber gasket is a joke, not even close to the bottom of hood. My intake air temp will climb from 100 to 155/60 just sitting in staging. seriously thinking about ditching it and modding stock airbox but with a non oiled filter. Turbos pull WAY more air thru filter and will suck oil out of it. I thought I read somewhere about Ford voiding turbo warranty because oil gums up turbos?
 
Here is the modified air box I did.  Someone else did it too on his MKS, used PVC pipe, but I used 3" intake flex pipe.  It was very tight under the left front head light assembly, that's why I used the flex pipe.  Going to order a Frogzskin breathable filter to help keep out bugs and other big debris.  Frogzskin is used on newer snowmobiles too keep out snow and snowdust.

 
FoMoCoSHO said:
Take a look at the Fastlane cai thread.

I have "stumbled" upon some info as to why the OEM performs better.

FMCS... Could you link the post?... There are 3 threads about the Fastlane CAI. TIA
 
I switched back to my stock intake and went to track. No change in time but IA temps were 20/30 deg cooler sitting in staging. Put Airaid back in tho, Just not the same without the massive noise fluff lol. I also cut the bottom corner near fender opening off Airaid box, Pulled both rubber gaskets off hood, and one off top of wiper cowl so air goes thru underhood. cut back of grille out so now you can see air cleaner thru grill, and I left off that massive shield under motor. stays alot cooler now. Need all I can get in Florida. I think I'm going to cut a slot in core support cover and bend a piece of metal at a 90 so I can block the grille opening back off when it rains like hell down here.
 
Night Hawk said:
Livernois Motorsports said:
We recommend our Windstorm CAI for the Eco-boost platforms gain up to 10 additional horsepower! We just received a new shipment in. Get yours today!

  Any pics bud?

Got mine last week



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bamsho said:
Here is the modified air box I did.  Someone else did it too on his MKS, used PVC pipe, but I used 3" intake flex pipe.  It was very tight under the left front head light assembly, that's why I used the flex pipe.  Going to order a Frogzskin breathable filter to help keep out bugs and other big debris.  Frogzskin is used on newer snowmobiles too keep out snow and snowdust.

Thanks for the pics and info.  Do you get much noise fluff out of this?  That was the only reason I was considering doing it.  Thanks.
 
No, I didn't here any extra noise like I did with my K&N CAI setup.  Just need 3in hole saw and flex pipe.  Not sure how tight it is behind head light of an MKS.
 
I recommend our Windstorm line of CAI. We have seen gains of up to 15 HP. Unfortunately with our testing we did not see much of a gain over the stock intake with the K&N CAI.
 
Livernois Motorsports said:
I recommend our Windstorm line of CAI. We have seen gains of up to 15 HP. Unfortunately with our testing we did not see much of a gain over the stock intake with the K&N CAI.
I assume this is for the 2010-12 SHO?  (That is the only application a search pulled up on your website.)  What are the requirements to achieve these gains with the Windstorm CAI (tune/fuel/exhaust, etc for example)?  Are the dyno sheets publicly available?  TIA.
 
SHOdded said:
Livernois Motorsports said:
I recommend our Windstorm line of CAI. We have seen gains of up to 15 HP. Unfortunately with our testing we did not see much of a gain over the stock intake with the K&N CAI.
I assume this is for the 2010-12 SHO?  (That is the only application a search pulled up on your website.)  What are the requirements to achieve these gains with the Windstorm CAI (tune/fuel/exhaust, etc for example)?  Are the dyno sheets publicly available?  TIA.

This is a Re Branded AirAid CAI .. curious as to whether LMS's buying power will result in a lower price than what the AirAid sells for elsewhere .

That would be a good thing .

Even though many don't like the design it is still popular and MANY of us use it.
I still have mine .
 
SHOdded said:
Livernois Motorsports said:
I recommend our Windstorm line of CAI. We have seen gains of up to 15 HP. Unfortunately with our testing we did not see much of a gain over the stock intake with the K&N CAI.
I assume this is for the 2010-12 SHO?  (That is the only application a search pulled up on your website.)  What are the requirements to achieve these gains with the Windstorm CAI (tune/fuel/exhaust, etc for example)?  Are the dyno sheets publicly available?  TIA.
I would also like to know what the effects to IAT's are as they get very hot with the K&N and the stock intake is very good at keeping temps close to ambient. It is not uncommon to be 1 or 2 degrees under ambient even at 70 degrees.
 
At this point, I'm skeptical of any CAI with the car in stock form.

However, I'm keeping an open mind and would like to see some data of a CAI on a modded car.

My plan is to slap my k&n on after the bolt ins and tune are in and re-dyno back to back.

That's actually the only reason I haven't sold it or turned it into garage art.(At least it's pretty, lol.)

 
I ran against a friend of mine this past Friday at the track, both 2013's and identical mods except he has a CAI and I have a drop in K&N. Every time we lined up against each other he was .01-.03 faster than me. He also has the Flower wheels and mine came with the 19's so that is a small difference too. Same cool down time and everything, so that make me think the CAI does add a little to you car.
 
navbtcret said:
I ran against a friend of mine this past Friday at the track, both 2013's and identical mods except he has a CAI and I have a drop in K&N. Every time we lined up against each other he was .01-.03 faster than me. He also has the Flower wheels and mine came with the 19's so that is a small difference too. Same cool down time and everything, so that make me think the CAI does add a little to you car.

A different finding than most have reported.... warrants a bit of analysis I think.

Do you have the timeslips you could post?  Interesting to see them I think.  The main variable not controlled is primarily the driver if both cars are either PP or non-PP.  I wonder if the drop-in is the problem....

Other member tests were same driver, same car, different runs (back-to-back) with AM CAI vs completely stock intake... 4DR and bamsho found stock faster in their trial conducted this way.

Removing the entire filter box (saxophone only open intake) vs stock showed no difference on the dyno in my '13 SHO nonPP... but of course that's not "real world"
 
BiGMaC said:
FoMoCoSHO said:
Take a look at the Fastlane cai thread.

I have "stumbled" upon some info as to why the OEM performs better.

FMCS... Could you link the post?... There are 3 threads about the Fastlane CAI. TIA

bump.... What's the secret FoMoCo?
 
Preliminary prototype pics of the CAI that spartan27 is working on are promising , however I am not at liberty to share .
Coming along nicely I think .
 
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