New tune on Police Interceptor

[SHOdded]

bpd can provide clarity on the ballistic panel situation, he has quite indepth knowledge for sure.  I would think though that police vehicles WITHOUT ballistic panels, at least patrol vehicles, would be an anomaly.  That's like hanging a death sentence on your officers!

 

[sholxgt]

bpd can provide clarity on the ballistic panel situation, he has quite indepth knowledge for sure.  I would think though that police vehicles WITHOUT ballistic panels, at least patrol vehicles, would be an anomaly.  That's like hanging a death sentence on your officers!

I can't speak for the new Interceptor, but I traded in a 2006 CVPI on my MKS and have a decent amount of knowledge with those cars.  They were and still are the most common police car on the road.  Very, very few had ANY additional armor/protection.  Some have armor in the front seats, but even that is not common.

 

[Blackhawk]

SpeedTrap was the owner so he can speak up, I think he said his car was was a demo so it had almost every option.

Ballistic panels? Armor? Are you guys sure that the intercepter a have this?

I know Ford has been toying around with adding bulletproof windows and ballistic panels to the police packages, but it was my impression they had not actually done it yet for production. Plus, even if already out in limited amounts, I was also under the impression that the cost was prohibitive for most departments.

I think most interceptors are just the sedans with better suspension and heavy duty use items like batteries and alternators. Maybe I'm wrong ...


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[sholxgt]

I've often contemplated flashing my xsport to think it's a TT police interceptor. They up tune them for gear/armor. At the moment I'm too cheap for a real tuner computer but at work I have ford software and access to PCM cal files...

What proof do you have? Every police interceptor vehicle I've seen over the years is just as slow as the civilian counterpart in magazine tests. It's a common misconception that all police interceptor cars are tuned more than normal cars. Sure there are some specialty cop cars but the police interceptor package is nothing special, and never was.

What Ford software do you have....IDS? if that's the case you can't see the tune. You simply get the file to flash. That file could have changes that are as simple as an increased speed limiter and cooling settings and tire size.

I have IDS software and there are police interceptor items you can add to your car if you want but they are nothing exciting

What you are saying is basically correct for the CVPI's.  They do have a special tune, but I wouldn't say it's exactly aggressive.  The PI tune mostly modifies the speed limiter, cooling functions, traction control, and abs functions.  The tune likely accounts for the less restrictive intake and exhaust that the cars have factory as well.  In the end, they aren't much faster than a civilian model.

I had mine custom tuned and that made a noticeable improvement.

I would guess that is all still true.  If you want a real gain, don't bother with any factory program.

 

[ajpturbo]

I dont think the police interceptor is different at all from a pp sho....soon i should be able to compare a police twin turbo to a pp.....i remember people thought the crown vic pi were faster..they were electronically limited to 133 lol

 

[sholxgt]

I dont think the police interceptor is different at all from a pp sho....soon i should be able to compare a police twin turbo to a pp.....i remember people thought the crown vic pi were faster..they were electronically limited to 133 lol

LOL. With the limiter removed, they still don't hit a very high terminal velocity.  In theory, of course.  Strange thing was that with a 3.73 gear, carbon fiber limited slip, and custom program, one could still manage to out accelerate many cars (at the track) for a short distance.

In theory, one could out run a CVPI on the top end with most modern unlimited vehicles.  I suspect that is part of the reason why many departments are retiring the very dependable platform. 

 

[ajpturbo]

I doubt it....they were like 275hp with the crappy 4.6

 

[sholxgt]

I doubt it....they were like 275hp with the crappy 4.6

As usual, you missed my point.  As you do 90% of the posters on this forum.  I was saying that it's a slow outdated platform that can be tuned to out accelerate modern cars, but can't run with anything on the top end.

The power you quoted and crappyness of the motor are correct.  Keep in mind that there are plenty of crappy motors that do OK when needed.

The 5.0 Mustang in my garage put 532 to the back tires with the factory original 120k mile short block.  No, it's not a modern 5.0.  It's the factory 302 in a 1990 LX hatch.  Runs ok when needed also since it's 3,200 lbs soaking wet with factory equipment, A/C, driver, etc.

 

[Scott4957]

Ah you didn't have to edit that. AJ's super power is being condescending and having dry humor. He is proud of it and incorporates it in all his log readings haha.

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[ajpturbo]

I doubt it....they were like 275hp with the crappy 4.6

As usual, you missed my point.  As you do 90% of the posters on this forum.  I was saying that it's a slow outdated platform that can be tuned to out accelerate modern cars, but can't run with anything on the top end.

The power you quoted and crappyness of the motor are correct.  Keep in mind that there are plenty of crappy motors that do OK when needed.

The 5.0 Mustang in my garage put 532 to the back tires with the factory original 120k mile short block.  No, it's not a modern 5.0.  It's the factory 302 in a 1990 LX hatch.  Runs ok when needed also since it's 3,200 lbs soaking wet with factory equipment, A/C, driver, etc.

I don't even know what to say...Your 5.0 that did 532 was really far from stock...Give me 50 grand and I could give a 1 liter 3 cylinder geo metro engine make 750 to the wheels...It's not the factory 302 if you almost tripled the power
How does one tune a crappy engine to "out accelerate modern cars" but also at the same time doesn't run with them on the top end?

There isn't much power to be had from a "tune" on a 4.6 N/A in a crown vic.

 

[sholxgt]

I doubt it....they were like 275hp with the crappy 4.6

As usual, you missed my point.  As you do 90% of the posters on this forum.  I was saying that it's a slow outdated platform that can be tuned to out accelerate modern cars, but can't run with anything on the top end.

The power you quoted and crappyness of the motor are correct.  Keep in mind that there are plenty of crappy motors that do OK when needed.

The 5.0 Mustang in my garage put 532 to the back tires with the factory original 120k mile short block.  No, it's not a modern 5.0.  It's the factory 302 in a 1990 LX hatch.  Runs ok when needed also since it's 3,200 lbs soaking wet with factory equipment, A/C, driver, etc.

I don't even know what to say...Your 5.0 that did 532 was really far from stock...Give me 50 grand and I could give a 1 liter 3 cylinder geo metro engine make 750 to the wheels...It's not the factory 302 if you almost tripled the power
How does one tune a crappy engine to "out accelerate modern cars" but also at the same time doesn't run with them on the top end?

There isn't much power to be had from a "tune" on a 4.6 N/A in a crown vic.

LOL. Maybe you are ignorant.  A "short block" means block, crank, rods, and pistons.  I never said all original 302.  I said factory short block. 

Maybe also you don't understand the concept of gearing, traction, and a decent running vehicle.  Most of my rides through the years haven't impressed any dyno's or dragstrips, but yet somehow manage to bring home the bacon.  Granted, none of my rides have ever given up what they have on a dyno or at a timed event either.

I think that, if you focused less on being an Internet super star, and instead realized that there are others that share your passion for automobiles, maybe you would choose to be less obnoxious. 

 

[ajpturbo]

Perhaps you are right...but then id be much more bored and would just read a book....id rather log on and be that internet superstar

 

[sholxgt]

Perhaps you are right...but then id be much more bored and would just read a book....id rather log on and be that internet superstar

Please keep logging. Many appreciate your tireless efforts.

 

[SHOdded]

Time for that reminder to stay on point and not disrupt OP's thread.  Thank you.

 

[John Miller]

Someone mentioned above that the PI might have the speed limiter removed or modified - not true on the Taurus. The PI Taurus is limited to 123 or 124. I'm only 90% sure most don't have armor, but I'm 100% sure about the speed limiter


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[Scott4957]

Someone mentioned above that the PI might have the speed limiter removed or modified - not true on the Taurus. The PI Taurus is limited to 123 or 124. I'm only 90% sure most don't have armor, but I'm 100% sure about the speed limiter


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So you're saying I can get away if needed? LOL Not sure if the armor was a joke or not but weighing it would be one way to know for sure.

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[FoMoCoSHO]

The armor is no joke, they can be upfitted with ballistic panels and I think bullet resistant glass as well.

 

[BiGMaC]

Someone mentioned above that the PI might have the speed limiter removed or modified - not true on the Taurus. The PI Taurus is limited to 123 or 124. I'm only 90% sure most don't have armor, but I'm 100% sure about the speed limiter


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Just remember that radio waves move nearly the speed of light when you contemplate trying... LOL
So you're saying I can get away if needed? LOL Not sure if the armor was a joke or not but weighing it would be one way to know for sure.

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[ZSHO]

I wonder if weight could play a factor compared to the SHO,sometimes the OP PI do come with some extra goodies!!!  Z

 

[SpeedTrap]

Yes, my car in fact does have ballistic panels in the doors. They are VERY heavy. If it's not too difficult to remove them, I may consider it. Attached is the original window sticker.