Noob Engine Cover Question

[Ryan02Stang]

When changing the spark plugs on my MKS this weekend...i noticed there was also "foam" of some sort under the upper intake manifold/plenum.  Do SHO's have that?

Never seen anything like that before...

Ryan due post some pic's of the location,question in mind,thanks.  Z

Stole the pic from above, so apparently all the 3.5's have it.  I circled what I'm talking about in red.

 

[ZSHO]

It should have the "Foam block"according to page two on this thread,think the other member has a 13 MKS and was also inquiring about the removal of that piece in question.  Z

 

[Ryan02Stang]

Just seems weird to me that Ford would squeeze a big piece of foam under the intake plenum....

 

[sholxgt]

Just seems weird to me that Ford would squeeze a big piece of foam under the intake plenum....

It's up for debate, but my initial impression has not changed.  I believe all of the foam is to help quiet the natural noises caused by direct injection.  I also believe that these sound deadening materials come at the cost of additional heat soak.  You can't insulate from heat by adding materials on top. 

Unless those materials are actively or passively cooled.  These dense foam rubbers are neither.

Someone with datalogging abilities could probably do some tests to see if any of the changes are significant with/without the sound deadening materials in place

 

[ZSHO]

It looks like the 15+have it also.  Z 

 

[Blackhawk]

All I know is it is noisy as hell without it.

 

[ajpturbo]

When changing the spark plugs on my MKS this weekend...i noticed there was also "foam" of some sort under the upper intake manifold/plenum.  Do SHO's have that?

Never seen anything like that before...

My original engine cover does... But a Ford factory replacement purchased for a CF wrap does not... Pros and cons related to noise and heat I suppose.

Bigmac you are talking about the foam under the cover which is a seperate part i believe....ryan meant under the manifold in the valley i think

 

[Ryan02Stang]

When changing the spark plugs on my MKS this weekend...i noticed there was also "foam" of some sort under the upper intake manifold/plenum.  Do SHO's have that?

Never seen anything like that before...

My original engine cover does... But a Ford factory replacement purchased for a CF wrap does not... Pros and cons related to noise and heat I suppose.

Bigmac you are talking about the foam under the cover which is a seperate part i believe....ryan meant under the manifold in the valley i think

Exactly

 

[BiGMaC]

OIC.... Never had one of those. Never had a noise problem, even when in the garage, except the fans in a PHX summer.... 116 today!

 

[13TTPI]

The PI version does not include superfluous engine covers but does have all the foam.

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[cror1]

Question for all of you, since we are in this department,when the car is on, and even without this cover on, I can hear this vacuum noise (sucking, as in a boost leak) coming from the firewall, someplace from the rear turbo to the valve cover closer to the cabin. The noise is only noticeable at idle with the hood up. I was curious if you hear this noise on your car, and if it's normal?

 

[ZSHO]

The PI version does not include superfluous engine covers but does have all the foam.

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I think you might want to put a 1/4 clamp on that wastegate hose before it pops off the intake charge pipe and sets a code or an over boost condition and it does look a little loose IMO.  Z

 

[ZSHO]

Question for all of you, since we are in this department,when the car is on, and even without this cover on, I can hear this vacuum noise (sucking, as in a boost leak) coming from the firewall, someplace from the rear turbo to the valve cover closer to the cabin. The noise is only noticeable at idle with the hood up. I was curious if you hear this noise on your car, and if it's normal?

Its quite normal to hear a slight hissing sound coming from the brake booster,vacuum line but only to a certain extent.  Z

 

[13TTPI]

The PI version does not include superfluous engine covers but does have all the foam.

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I think you might want to put a 1/4 clamp on that wastegate hose before it pops off the intake charge pipe and sets a code or an over boost condition and it does look a little loose IMO.  Z

Wow!  Thank you for eyeballing that, could you also circle where the clamp is missing? Or is that the 1/4 hose behind the front BOV?

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[BiGMaC]

The PI version does not include superfluous engine covers but does have all the foam.

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I think you might want to put a 1/4 clamp on that wastegate hose before it pops off the intake charge pipe and sets a code or an over boost condition and it does look a little loose IMO.  Z

Wow!  Thank you for eyeballing that, could you also circle where the clamp is missing? Or is that the 1/4 hose behind the front BOV?

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That's it.

 

[13TTPI]

The PI version does not include superfluous engine covers but does have all the foam.

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I think you might want to put a 1/4 clamp on that wastegate hose before it pops off the intake charge pipe and sets a code or an over boost condition and it does look a little loose IMO.  Z

Wow!  Thank you for eyeballing that, could you also circle where the clamp is missing? Or is that the 1/4 hose behind the front BOV?

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That's it.

While we're on the subject of noob questions, how does one discern between the oil required Airaid filter & the dry?  I found a MyCal and Airaid set on a large Online auction web site (already been in contact with LMS & know what I still need to do to get tunes) and want to be sure I maintain the filter correctly. Thanks!

Oh & I can't see any evidence of a clamp ever being on the waste gate side of that hose, this and other minor issues such as an inop "low gear" switch just make me wonder.

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[cror1]

Thank you, Z. I was following that hose and tuning  in for sound. Even removed that plastic wrap on that line to see if it was leaking. I noticed it the other day when the hood was up. I don't drive that car much, so it's still new to me. But it does seem to be ing that area.

 

[glock-coma]

The PI version does not include superfluous engine covers but does have all the foam.

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I think you might want to put a 1/4 clamp on that wastegate hose before it pops off the intake charge pipe and sets a code or an over boost condition and it does look a little loose IMO.  Z

Wow!  Thank you for eyeballing that, could you also circle where the clamp is missing? Or is that the 1/4 hose behind the front BOV?

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That's it.

While we're on the subject of noob questions, how does one discern between the oil required Airaid filter & the dry?  I found a MyCal and Airaid set on a large Online auction web site (already been in contact with LMS & know what I still need to do to get tunes) and want to be sure I maintain the filter correctly. Thanks!

Oh & I can't see any evidence of a clamp ever being on the waste gate side of that hose, this and other minor issues such as an inop "low gear" switch just make me wonder.

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Should be a part number on the filter.
Here's a link to air raid with the kit part numbers.
You'll need to click on each one to see the specific air filter part number that's used and if it's dry or oiled.
http://www.airaid.com/search/appsearch.aspx?type=all&year=2010&make=FORD&model=Taurus%20SHO&engine=3.5L


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[ZSHO]

Ford decided to not add any additional clamps on those two hoses as pictured below and have seen those hoses pop off to many times stock or tuned,also to answer your other question the Dryflow seems to be the better choice IMO and does not need oil and easier maintenance.  Z

 

[metroplex]

The foam block on the HPFP is for noise suppression. On the 2008 Cobalt SS Turbo, GM did not include any insulation for the GTDI HPFP and then as a TSB provided for an insulation material. The material is the same foam. Starting 2009, the SSTC came with the insulation. That HPFP is a Bosch that is an earlier version of what we have on EcoBoost.