PTU blew.. (confirmed PTU now)

Sorry to hear Topher. I feel like you have had more bad times than good with this car.

And I think some of the programming for the TCU happens when you flash the ECU but I really don't know. I"m sure the dealer can do trans programming with the IDS software they use but I really don't know.
 
AJP turbo said:
Sorry to hear Topher. I feel like you have had more bad times than good with this car.

And I think some of the programming for the TCU happens when you flash the ECU but I really don't know. I"m sure the dealer can do trans programming with the IDS software they use but I really don't know.

My now dinner addled brain thinks it is all IDS,  but that's based on a super old thread from the other SHOforum where a member who had access to IDS swapped in a pp unit and forced it to mate.

Guess well find out.. about to start a go fund me :P

Here is what PTU death looks like when it pools after stopping 2 blocks later.  (same pic,  but here as well for late thread skippers.)
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TopherSho said:
SHOme said:
How often do you have it flushed?  I do mine every 30k because my 2010 TC went bad at 112k.  It might be the PTU fluid also.

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2010 has no plug that I can access, and the dealership refused to change the lifetime fluid.
Btw, the 2010 models do have a drain plug per se.

It's the port that they hook up to pressure check the system. I drain mine twice per year by means of this bolt.

If you need a pic, LMK.
 
bpd1151 said:
TopherSho said:
SHOme said:
How often do you have it flushed?  I do mine every 30k because my 2010 TC went bad at 112k.  It might be the PTU fluid also.

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2010 has no plug that I can access, and the dealership refused to change the lifetime fluid.
Btw, the 2010 models do have a drain plug per se.

It's the port that they hook up to pressure check the system. I drain mine twice per year by means of this bolt.

If you need a pic, LMK.

Welp it is a dealer job so that's a gamble at this point.  My bet is re-maned which I think I like more... as to the plug, well dammit swore I read the 2010 was not accessible without heroic efforts.. If it is without dissembling the wheel/fender I am interested.
 
The trans itself has a drain plug.

The PTU does NOT.

I just thumbed through more of the thread, and was confused as the title says, trans blew, but looks like discussion transitioned to the failure possibly being the PTU.

Not sure which one you've verified has failed.

A mighty vac pump with an extended tube is used to change my PTU fluid. Takes approx. 20min total. I'm thinking the dealer just didn't want to perform the service.
 
bpd1151 said:
The trans itself has a drain plug.

The PTU does NOT.

I just thumbed through more of the thread, and was confused as the title says, trans blew, but looks like discussion transitioned to the failure possibly being the PTU.

Not sure which one you've verified has failed.

A mighty vac pump with an extended tube is used to change my PTU fluid. Takes approx. 20min total. I'm thinking the dealer just didn't want to perform the service.

still not 100% sure .. the oil smelled so so so bad,  and it was a really sludgey black.  i will know by end of tomorrow when the pull off the cover.
 
when you change transmissions, generally all you need to do is update the solenoid body strategy in the PCM.  The TCM being the same as the Solenoid Body Assembly.  Now if you use a different type of transmission, you will have to update other parameters as well.  PP, non-PP, PI, etc.
 
PTU is all mechanical, no electronic controls and no clutches on that guy.  But have not heard/read of any gearing differences, so couldn't say. They operate on similar principles, ie, intelligent AWD as Ford calls it, but physical unit sizes are different based on which model they are installed into.
 
The PTU is significantly cheaper than a trans.  If you never changed the fluid it is likely that.  My PTU fluid in my 2014 had begun to thicken at 30k.  I change it every 20-25k now and use amsoil severe gear.  Got 104k on her and no issues yet.  I'm knocking on wood:)


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Verdict is PTU,  a "inspector" for the warranty is coming to look at it in the next 48 hours.  My fingers are crossed a little bit.. HOPEFULLY the car will be on the lift still where nothing will show of the meth kit ..
 
TopherSho said:
Verdict is PTU,  a "inspector" for the warranty is coming to look at it in the next 48 hours.  My fingers are crossed a little bit.. HOPEFULLY the car will be on the lift still where nothing will show of the meth kit ..
Do yourself a favor and get the trans serviced while it's there.

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TopherSho said:
OMFG .. THE SMELL .. WTH???  Seriously do they take urine and feces from demons, dead cats, meth and  cram them into these units?

this is the most awful thing I've ever smelled and I've taken apart a supercharger when I was dumb..

THIS! The fluid in the Eaton M90 was the worst.
 
PTU is best news it could be, they are relatively inexpensive all things considered.  I opted to not get extended warranty because replacing turbo's and PTU was less than I would pay on an extended coverage warranty. 

Crossing fingers for you that they cover it.  They are a known weak point regardless of tune, so hopefully be straightforward process.  From what I have read here they will hopefully replace it with the '13+ version so you can do flushes on your own moving forward.
 
sm105k said:
TopherSho said:
OMFG .. THE SMELL .. WTH???  Seriously do they take urine and feces from demons, dead cats, meth and  cram them into these units?

this is the most awful thing I've ever smelled and I've taken apart a supercharger when I was dumb..

THIS! The fluid in the Eaton M90 was the worst.

Even the refill oil I ordered was pungent ..
 
lamrith said:
PTU is best news it could be, they are relatively inexpensive all things considered.  I opted to not get extended warranty because replacing turbo's and PTU was less than I would pay on an extended coverage warranty. 

Crossing fingers for you that they cover it.  They are a known weak point regardless of tune, so hopefully be straightforward process.  From what I have read here they will hopefully replace it with the '13+ version so you can do flushes on your own moving forward.

Yeah that seems a stellar idea!
 
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