Questions on the SHO after fixing all my F150 EB issues

[93Cobra]

I have, and it does not affect the stutter. This car stutters just like the eco F150 I had... all due to condensate. I want the hole in there so that the condensate (and oil gunk) get blown out to the atmosphere. I do not want to ever worry about moisture accumulation from the CAC getting passed through and blowing out spark (stutter).

Look on the different forums. You will see the folks with stutter issues then have cats and O2 sesnors that go bad. I have done my research on this engine after all the issues I had with my F150. I was able to sell that truck off and am finally back in a V8 version.

 

[ajpturbo]

Interesting...i dont have thise problems....ford hand built my car for me though...its served me well to not believe info from forum sheople that are generally clueless

 

[ZSHO]

Interesting...i dont have thise problems....ford hand built my car for me though...its served me well to not believe info from forum sheople that are generally clueless

AJ I assume you have very low mileage on your car and hope she treats you well on the later stages.  Z

 

[glock-coma]

Are you doing a drain plug or just an open hole?

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

So where exactly are these "shudder" problems happening?

WOT?, part throttle?

 

[jbeez]

Trying to find what issues plague both applications of the 3.5 ecoboost in the F150 and SHO as i own both.
2013 SHO (28k miles) and Airraid CAI
- car has been fine, but had a noticeable "tick" on idle all the time. Added fuel injector cleaner (Chevron w/ Techron) and went away.

2012 F150 EB (83k miles)
- truck had a stutter on acceleration as i passed a vehicle and nearly got myself killed.
- truck had a bad battery and i replaced it
- my findings: the f150 application (front mount CAC) generates condensate because it cools too well. On boost, water is ingested through engine blowing out plugs. So, i drilled a 1/16 weep hole in the intercooler and now it drains. I changed plugs to new motorcraft plugs gapped at .028. Now, problem solved. For the battery, I swapped it and still kept getting intermittent battery light on dash. I found out that there is a battery monitor reset that needs done at dealer (scan tool / tuner can't do I found) so that the de-clutching of the alternator happens at the right times (for gas mileage). Onc they reset, all has been fine and averaging 20mpg. I also had a tick sound at idle as well as some roughness. I added fuel injector cleaner (Chevron w/ Techron) and it is now fixed.

So, question is how much fo these two applications share for issues? Anyone drill a weep hole in the SHO CAC?

the idle tick has been explained to me as the direct injection, I always thought it was a noisy valve train. Sorry I don't remember where I read that it just stuck with me because it bothered the hell out of me too.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

The HPFP makes a lot of noise....

That's the only tic I've ever heard.

 

[93Cobra]

So where exactly are these "shudder" problems happening?

WOT?, part throttle?

Moderate to heavy acceleration. Examples are passing or accelerating to get out of an intersection.

The hole would be just that - no valve or anything. I just want to make sure that water and oil get bliwn out before it builds. Never know when it will cause a problem.

 

[ajpturbo]

There is more going on with your car...what other mods do u have....home made or otherwise?

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

So where exactly are these "shudder" problems happening?

WOT?, part throttle?

Moderate to heavy acceleration. Examples are passing or accelerating to get out of an intersection.

The hole would be just that - no valve or anything. I just want to make sure that water and oil get bliwn out before it builds. Never know when it will cause a problem.

You sure you're not seeing a heavy knock or false knock event?

Is the car downshifting when this happens?

A +7 KR event will put a damper on the fun real quick and feel like hesitation or shudder. What's really happening is the car is saying, hell no.

Also, TC events happen sometimes w/o the light flash.

Any logs of the events you are referring to?

 

[ZSHO]

93Cobra have you checked to see if a re-flash is available from the dealer,sometimes a software update can help with the issues your having,it all depends on the build date which can be checked with IDS software if it indeed needs reprogramming.  Z

 

[ajpturbo]

93Cobra have you checked to see if a re-flash is available from the dealer,sometimes a software update can help with the issues your having,it all depends on the build date which can be checked with IDS software if it indeed needs reprogramming.  Z

Thats actually good advice..my car is a 2014 and there is actually 3 updates...u can see the strategy for your car on the motorcraft service site...sometimes the changes are small but u never know....the second update for my car literally contained 1 change...i had sct add it to my license so i could open the stock tune

 

[93Cobra]

It is actually up to date on strategy. They can't fix the condensate issue via tuning. That was one major thing the f150 group learned.

 

[glock-coma]

Have you seen my video on you tube? I literally had a 1/2" of fuel/oil at the bottom of my cac and never had these issues.
That was my reason for a catch can.
http://youtu.be/nIQF5PQjsaM

 

[ajpturbo]

It is actually up to date on strategy. They can't fix the condensate issue via tuning. That was one major thing the f150 group learned.

Actually they can....they modify the "allowable wheel torque error" scalar...it prevented limp mode when the motor ingested the water condensate causing the misfires which caused limp mode and reduced power

 

[93Cobra]

My goal is to eliminate the condensate. The hole is my only option.

I will be drilling the intercooler at the lower corner closest to the front of the car. I will get new plugs (gapped at .028) in at the same time and that should keep the car from stuttering anymore. I won't feel safe until I get that done.

 

[FoMoCoSHO]

There are plenty of options besides punching a hole in a pressurized system that may or may not be causing problems.

Once again, got any logs of this "shudder"?

 

[BiGMaC]

My goal is to eliminate the condensate. The hole is my only option.

I will be drilling the intercooler at the lower corner closest to the front of the car. I will get new plugs (gapped at .028) in at the same time and that should keep the car from stuttering anymore. I won't feel safe until I get that done.

Consider a stopcock at least. This could create a whole new set of problems related to sensors reading overboost situation.

 

[93Cobra]

It won't cause problems- I did this same thing on the eco F150 and had no issues. If you look at the f150 forums you will find that most owners have done this and have had no loss of performance and issues went away.

 

[ajpturbo]

It won't cause problems- I did this same thing on the eco F150 and had no issues. If you look at the f150 forums you will find that most owners have done this and have had no loss of performance and issues went away.

I can show you plenty of datalogs of poorly running and tuned cars that exibit no detectable problems to the operator

You may not feel or notice anything but that doesnt mean there arent negative effects due to a hardware modification