Running with the bull (cinnamon/umber content)

Here are some better pictures I took over the weekend. I had to detail her and fix some things (broken bumper bracket, and drop in a K&N filter) for Riverside Chattanooga.

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Code AiR said:
I think it could be a little lower. I am not "really" happy with the height but it's my daily so I don't rub and have full function. So it is what it is. The space in the rear is really bugging me with my new Roti's. Wheel specs; f20x8.5 / r20x10 .... Tire specs; f255/45/20 and r275/40/20
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Really?

I'd be unbelievably happy how the drop and wheels turned out, its perfect!

Is yours a PP on non-PP?

 
FoMoCoSHO said:
Code AiR said:
I think it could be a little lower. I am not "really" happy with the height but it's my daily so I don't rub and have full function. So it is what it is. The space in the rear is really bugging me with my new Roti's. Wheel specs; f20x8.5 / r20x10 .... Tire specs; f255/45/20 and r275/40/20
21dfneb.jpg

rumrz9.jpg
Really?

I'd be unbelievably happy how the drop and wheels turned out, its perfect!

Is yours a PP on non-PP?

Honestly idk lol. How do I tell?
 
Do you have adaptive cruise control?  Performance pack cars don't offer it and it's the easiest way to tell on the 10-12 MY's from a visual stand point. 

But not all vehicles without ACC are PP vehicles.  Push and hold your traction control button for 5 seconds or so, and if the gauge cluster reads something along the line of "Advancetrac Sport" or "Advancetrac Off", you have a PP vehicle. 

 
dubcitySHO said:
Do you have adaptive cruise control?  Performance pack cars don't offer it and it's the easiest way to tell on the 10-12 MY's from a visual stand point. 

But not all vehicles without ACC are PP vehicles.  Push and hold your traction control button for 5 seconds or so, and if the gauge cluster reads something along the line of "Advancetrac Sport" or "Advancetrac Off", you have a PP vehicle.

Interesting... I’ll have to try out the traction control.
 
dubcitySHO said:
Do you have adaptive cruise control?  Performance pack cars don't offer it and it's the easiest way to tell on the 10-12 MY's from a visual stand point. 

But not all vehicles without ACC are PP vehicles.  Push and hold your traction control button for 5 seconds or so, and if the gauge cluster reads something along the line of "Advancetrac Sport" or "Advancetrac Off", you have a PP vehicle.

So I turned the TC off and when I turned it back on it says advancetrac on. So I guess I have a PP?
 
Below is video recorded by a (former?) member of the forum, who had/has a pretty slick SHO in my opinion.  I loved what he did with his stock wheels, and was the first person I saw do it. 

This is how a PP car disables the nannies, but mine is non-PP so I don't have first hand experience although I wish I did for.......reasons...... :drive:

https://youtu.be/IutZ2sGyOUo
 
Code AiR said:
FoMoCoSHO said:
Code AiR said:
I think it could be a little lower. I am not "really" happy with the height but it's my daily so I don't rub and have full function. So it is what it is. The space in the rear is really bugging me with my new Roti's. Wheel specs; f20x8.5 / r20x10 .... Tire specs; f255/45/20 and r275/40/20
21dfneb.jpg

rumrz9.jpg
Really?

I'd be unbelievably happy how the drop and wheels turned out, its perfect!

Is yours a PP on non-PP?

Honestly idk lol. How do I tell?
IMHO from the color scheme to the wheel setup wouldn't even care if its a Performance package or NOT...from my perspective it simply looks that dam good! enjoy.  Z  :)
 
Factory 19s, good chance it isn't a PP unless someone swapped them previously.  Doesn't really matter much anyways in the grand scheme of things. 
 
ZSHO said:
IMHO from the color scheme to the wheel setup wouldn't even care if its a Performance package or NOT...from my perspective it simply looks that dam good! enjoy.  Z  :)

My thoughts exactly.  I've always loved the Cinnamon and the wheels definitely make it pop even more.

Plus once you get a tune the gearing advantage of the PP more or less disappears.
 
dubcitySHO said:
ZSHO said:
IMHO from the color scheme to the wheel setup wouldn't even care if its a Performance package or NOT...from my perspective it simply looks that dam good! enjoy.  Z  :)

My thoughts exactly.  I've always loved the Cinnamon and the wheels definitely make it pop even more.

Plus once you get a tune the gearing advantage of the PP more or less disappears.
@ dubcitySHO That candy apple SHO of yours leaves nothing to be desired.  Z :thumb:
 
Blackhawk said:
Factory 19s, good chance it isn't a PP unless someone swapped them previously.  Doesn't really matter much anyways in the grand scheme of things.
It matters when you have an MKS and you are gathering impressions of the different suspensions on H&Rs before a final decision is made. The MKS gets base shocks so the only upgrade path is to rob the SHO parts bin or coilovers. I do not want to put a third suspension on because I chose wrong.

I had two gen 5's one PP, one non, and I much preferred then standard package. IMHO not enough of a performance increase to justify the harsh ride.
 
I'm glad it matters to your specific case.  To the OP I was just assuring him he isn't missing much not having the PP.

FoMoCoSHO said:
Blackhawk said:
Factory 19s, good chance it isn't a PP unless someone swapped them previously.  Doesn't really matter much anyways in the grand scheme of things.
It matters when you have an MKS and you are gathering impressions of the different suspensions on H&Rs before a final decision is made. The MKS gets base shocks so the only upgrade path is to rob the SHO parts bin or coilovers. I do not want to put a third suspension on because I chose wrong.

I had two gen 5's one PP, one non, and I much preferred then standard package. IMHO not enough of a performance increase to justify the harsh ride.
 
ZSHO said:
Code AiR said:
FoMoCoSHO said:
Code AiR said:
I think it could be a little lower. I am not "really" happy with the height but it's my daily so I don't rub and have full function. So it is what it is. The space in the rear is really bugging me with my new Roti's. Wheel specs; f20x8.5 / r20x10 .... Tire specs; f255/45/20 and r275/40/20
21dfneb.jpg

rumrz9.jpg
Really?

I'd be unbelievably happy how the drop and wheels turned out, its perfect!

Is yours a PP on non-PP?

Honestly idk lol. How do I tell?
IMHO from the color scheme to the wheel setup wouldn't even care if its a Performance package or NOT...from my perspective it simply looks that dam good! enjoy.  Z  :)

Thank you sir! Hopefully I can keep improving the aesthetics.
 
Do the PP's come with water-to-oil coolers that are plumed into the radiator core? I mean I guess it doesn't matter really I am going to go with drilled rotors and upgraded brake pads anyways. I already have H&R springs so that's taken care of. The only thing I wouldn't have is the gearing which from what I've read doesn't matter if you get a tune anyways. Plus the water to oil coolers. I guess I could upgrade the radiator if I wanted to.
 
No water to air coolers, assuming you are referring to the intercooler, in any SHO thus far; it is all air-to-air, hence the need for aftermarket solutions.  The advantages of PP really manifested with the Gen 5 because of the upgraded oil and trans fluid coolers, which can be used in Gen 4 applications, thanks to the detailed writeups by bpd.  Noone has attempted a radiator upgrade thus far that I know of, though I THINK bpd has upgraded fans?

A stroll through the HOWTO section is a good way to generate some ideas to make your Bull more ferocious :) and lighten your wallet (helping your ET's)!
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,107.0.html
 
SHOdded said:
No water to air coolers, assuming you are referring to the intercooler, in any SHO thus far; it is all air-to-air, hence the need for aftermarket solutions.  The advantages of PP really manifested with the Gen 5 because of the upgraded oil and trans fluid coolers, which can be used in Gen 4 applications, thanks to the detailed writeups by bpd.  Noone has attempted a radiator upgrade thus far that I know of, though I THINK bpd has upgraded fans?

A stroll through the HOWTO section is a good way to generate some ideas to make your Bull more ferocious :) and lighten your wallet (helping your ET's)!
https://www.ecoboostperformanceforum.com/index.php/board,107.0.html

Guess I know what I'll be doing in my spare time tonight at work. Thank you! I was going off a post from another forum. I had to double check on which gen the guy was referring to. It was posted in a 4th gen section but maybe it was referring to an older generation. *shoulder shrug*

Mike's contributed a lot from what I've seen on this forum.
 
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