Rx Catch Can Install on Explorer Sport

[JimiJak]

Correct!!  The Monster is the best period, but fitment is difficult, so if you can fit it, do it!

That sounds like a Challenge Tracy! I might just take you up on that. ;D

On to the draining!
Another 500mi drain complete 2,600 - 3,100mi.
Due to relocating the can along with a small leak due to not enough teflon pipe taps on the threads, the can got emptied a couple times between 2,200 and 2,600.
Driving style has been almost all girlfriend driving to and from work. Country roads (55-65mph) and Highway (70-80mph), 35-45min drive, pretty tame. Some of it was around town, but not much.
Also, I say "12oz. pop bottle" in the video...not sure what I was thinking...it is a 20oz bottle. whoops.

Rx OCC Drain @ 500mi Part II

...never mind my garage remodeling project. lol
I would say about 4-5x more in this go 'round. I still think it can be more efficient though. You can see the separation already at about the halfway point. So, my guess would be the amount of oil and sludge is about 2-2.5x more than the first drain, and the amount of water is also 2-2.5x more due to increased condensation effect of the can now being somewhere cooler.
Smells like oil. Not like gas. (whew)

The next steps I'm kicking around are using a filter rather than the airbox for the css and seeing if that has any impact. Since the air filter is bone dry, I'm not super worried about saturating the filter. Maybe leave the hose attached and just put a breather filter on the end of it.
Also, re-locating the return line on the intake pipes to the eBOV return bungs on the intake pipes. They're a lot closer to the turbos, plus no drilling. I just have to reduce it from 1" down to 3/8". Ideas for the most efficient barbs are welcome!

 

[JimiJak]

On another note, for anyone wanting to attach their CSS to the airbox...that doesn't have an airbox; ie. cold air intake:
Below are some pics of an EGR re-route I did on a Mazda6 that are applicable to your situation.

I wanted to intake fresh air instead of exhaust gasses through my EGR so I drilled a hole in the top of my CAI filter (Ingen, the top cap ended up being 1/2" rubber.

It held a 90* elbow in VERY clean and secure).

Then just used a series of 3/8" hose and elbows to get back up to the EGR.

Different system, but same principle.

 

[ShoBoat]

Just out of curiosity, can we not just vent the clean side to atmosphere? That way there would be no vacuum at all? Just put a air filter on the end of the hose from the clean side separator.

 

[SHOdded]

Nice video, JimiJak.  Great news that fuel seems to be a minor component this go-round, a little worrisome though that so much oil (?) is floating as vapor in the system.  If you let the contents settle for a bit, maybe it will be just a small layer of oil crud?  Any noticeable change in dipstick reading?

 

[JimiJak]

Nope, oil level has stayed consistently full. I plan to let it settle for a couple days, then I'll get a nice clean pic of it posted.

 

[JimiJak]

Just out of curiosity, can we not just vent the clean side to atmosphere? That way there would be no vacuum at all? Just put a air filter on the end of the hose from the clean side separator.

It's a good question. I plan on experimenting with breathers soon. Rx makes a breather filter that goes in place of the CSS...or it could be remote like the end of the CSS hose like you're saying.
I'm curious too...still a huge difference from what came out today vs. what the f-150 guys are getting.

 

[kbeck59]

Just out of curiosity, can we not just vent the clean side to atmosphere? That way there would be no vacuum at all? Just put a air filter on the end of the hose from the clean side separator.

It's a good question. I plan on experimenting with breathers soon. Rx makes a breather filter that goes in place of the CSS...or it could be remote like the end of the CSS hose like you're saying.
I'm curious too...still a huge difference from what came out today vs. what the f-150 guys are getting.

I'm wondering if the larger IC on the F150 contributes to more contaminant accumulation ?

 

[JimiJak]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the f-150 guys are using the monster can, right?
That uses 1/2" hoses instead of 3/8"...plus it located in direct flow of cold air. Not sure what they're running for a CSS. Looks like time for more R&D for me!

 

[4DRHTRD]

Monster can is 4" diameter, you'll have to find a spot big enough to mount it.

 

[JimiJak]

I'm thinking the spot behind the bumper has good potential...

 

[adamantium]

Pick a side. There is plenty of room to go around.

 

[JimiJak]

True story!

Page 3 Post 42...I currently have the standard size can on the driver's side. I'm thinking it needs to be bigger. . .

*maniacal laughter*

 

[BiGMaC]

Please don't take this wrong... It's not a dis... It's just my scientific curiosity for independent info.... and maybe Tracey can chime in.... maybe this is posted and I missed it.....

BUT...

I'd really like to see a Blackstone Labs analysis sheet of the drainage from a catch can... regardless of type.... it could even be a way to compare the systems that is more important than volume collected/mile.

 

[JimiJak]

Please don't take this wrong... It's not a dis... It's just my scientific curiosity for independent info.... and maybe Tracey can chime in.... maybe this is posted and I missed it.....

BUT...

I'd really like to see a Blackstone Labs analysis sheet of the drainage from a catch can... regardless of type.... it could even be a way to compare the systems that is more important than volume collected/mile.

That's a great point Mac. I was actually thinking of that a little while ago when I took this pic.

The 20oz bottle on the L if the most recent, and the first drain on the R. Obviously a huge difference in volume, but consistency looks similar. Makes you wonder what's really in there...

 

[ShoBoat]

Bigmac makes an interesting point. Pretty much all other cans that I have seen get mostly oil. Whereas the RX gets this stuff too. I too am curious as to what is exactly being collected. It kinda looks like bacon grease.
My test setup for example is nothing in it at all lol.


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[explorergotoluvit]

Please don't take this wrong... It's not a dis... It's just my scientific curiosity for independent info.... and maybe Tracey can chime in.... maybe this is posted and I missed it.....

BUT...

I'd really like to see a Blackstone Labs analysis sheet of the drainage from a catch can... regardless of type.... it could even be a way to compare the systems that is more important than volume collected/mile.

how many miles it that one on the left? and right?

That's a great point Mac. I was actually thinking of that a little while ago when I took this pic.

The 20oz bottle on the L if the most recent, and the first drain on the R. Obviously a huge difference in volume, but consistency looks similar. Makes you wonder what's really in there...

 

[JimiJak]

I've contacted Blackstone regarding getting this sample tested...waiting to hear back.

As for the two bottles above: they were both after 500miles. The lesser was with the clean side line plumbed into the vac barb on the front intake pipe, and with the can mounted inside of the engine bay. The greater amount was after the clean side like was re-routed to the airbox and the can was mounted behind the front bumper / in front of the driver's side wheel well.

 

[painterpatt]

Drained mine yesterday after around 600 miles.......Still not one drop.....Hmmm. I know they work

 

[SHOdded]

Curious.  Unless the car is not driven, or the drain is left open, why this would be.  Checked the turbo piping?  Any signs of oil there?

 

[ShoBoat]

Hmmm Strange, Tracy shipped mine today. Hopefully I can begin testing it next week and add my 2 cents, but I find it strange that you are not getting anything at all? I agree with SHOdded, something is fishy. I would ensure that there are no blockages or restrictions. Maybe take a vacuum gauge and check that you are getting appropriate vacuum at all the ports on the can.