Torque Knock PID - may have some progress...

If I lightly accelerate in a normal driving situation on e-way it instantly starts adding timing right up to -4....it's weird that the smooth yet above normal throttle pressure to wot at a roll gets a +1.5 knock reading...maybe due to not getting the downshift?
 
FoMoCoSHO said:
SHOnUup said:
Only time I get timing pulled is when easing into full throttle from a roll(still quick throttle , just not punched to floor)...any foot to the floor action gets 0's....
Interesting. Mine adds.

Same here mine adds timing, I was just out for a drive and nada. Mine is not pulling timing at all. I was trying to duplicate this effect and I couldn't. Interesting after the mod to the Airaid and the installation if the RX I almost never see any timing pulled they were done at the same time. Once in a blue moon I get .5 and that's it. I will keep an eye on it.
 
SHOnUup said:
Only time I get timing pulled is when easing into full throttle from a roll(still quick throttle , just not punched to floor)...any foot to the floor action gets 0's....

That behavior is similar to mine.  Easing in the first part of the throttle seems to add timing.  A little deeper into the throttle pulls it and then at WOT it is at zero.  I haven't seen more than a +2 under any conditions, though.  This occurs in higher gear/lower RPM scenarios.
 
Brucelinc said:
SHOnUup said:
Only time I get timing pulled is when easing into full throttle from a roll(still quick throttle , just not punched to floor)...any foot to the floor action gets 0's....

That behavior is similar to mine.  Easing in the first part of the throttle seems to add timing.  A little deeper into the throttle pulls it and then at WOT it is at zero.  I haven't seen more than a +2 under any conditions, though.
I had a +2 first time out testing with 3 bar but have only seen +1.5 since...cars learning I think...hope...has to right
 
We have some consistency, that's a good sign. Wonder with it being tuned that those mid range throttle pressure ventures to wot missing the downshift is the cause?
 
FoMoCoSHO said:
Try downshifting at 20 ish to 1st and let off before the shift to 2nd.
Used the paddles once. Just not the same without the clutch action. For longevity with the Trans I'm trying to stay away from them. Cars still pretty fresh to me (only 4 months in), as I gain more trust in it the paddles may come into play!
 
Brucelinc said:
SHOnUup said:
Only time I get timing pulled is when easing into full throttle from a roll(still quick throttle , just not punched to floor)...any foot to the floor action gets 0's....

That behavior is similar to mine.  Easing in the first part of the throttle seems to add timing.  A little deeper into the throttle pulls it and then at WOT it is at zero.  I haven't seen more than a +2 under any conditions, though.  This occurs in higher gear/lower RPM scenarios.
Same as mine...I really don't know that I am going to be worried about 1.5 degrees of knock with as fast as these motors react at my mod level (basically tune, 3 bar, thermo, mufflers, plugs).  We'd have a whole lot of blown up SHO's running around if that was the case.  If you push the power up to near the breaking point for the rods and THEN get a little bit of knock (maybe even when lifting) it could be an issue of course...
 
FoMoCoSHO said:
Just stand on it or 25 or below, it will downshift.
Oh yeah, 25 - 30 might be one of the best launch points I feel, besides stopped. Once I put the pedal down I am sure to always get through the first shift after downshift to not cause a sloppy shift on the trans.
 
The most I've seen on gradual throttle roll on is -5.0. any full throttle is 0- +1.0. I do see knock of almost 3-4 when I let off on a wot run quickly.
 
Sounds like more data logging is needed. Does anyone with this wot/lift knock have access to FORScan? It would be interesting to see exactly what is happening. I will log mine but I have yet to see this behaviour.
 
ShoBoat said:
Sounds like more data logging is needed. Does anyone with this wot/lift knock have access to FORScan? It would be interesting to see exactly what is happening. I will log mine but I have yet to see this behaviour.

I have never really experienced this but I never do WOT and then an abrupt lift.  I suppose if I was WOT and a deer jumped out in front of me, I would do that but otherwise it just doesn't seem like a very common situation.  Maybe I am missing something....
 
Brucelinc said:
ShoBoat said:
Sounds like more data logging is needed. Does anyone with this wot/lift knock have access to FORScan? It would be interesting to see exactly what is happening. I will log mine but I have yet to see this behaviour.

I have never really experienced this but I never do WOT and then an abrupt lift.  I suppose if I was WOT and a deer jumped out in front of me, I would do that but otherwise it just doesn't seem like a very common situation.  Maybe I am missing something....
I do wot blasts to my cruise speed often.

I also tend to let off abruptly when LE is spotted.

 
I also tend to let off abruptly when LE is spotted.


LOL...yes, I would do that, too.  I got a ticket recently when I was in Des Moines visiting family and my wife got one on her way to work.  Not good for insurance premiums!
 
Pretty much any time I'm in a 25 mph zone that goes to 35.....I punch it .

I can't resist the 2-1 downshift at 25, its like SHO heroin.

I wonder if these are all the reasons for my rears wearing faster than my fronts?

 
FoMoCoSHO said:
Pretty much any time I'm in a 25 mph zone that goes to 35.....I punch it .

I can't resist the 2-1 downshift at 25, its like SHO heroin.

I wonder if these are all the reasons for my rears wearing faster than my fronts?
Love it...i like watching the rear power gauge for this also!!!
 
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