Torque PIDs...Take 2
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ecoboostsho
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That's a lot of gauges Larry! I like it. 
I figured out the wastegate status %:
PID 220462
Formula A/128*100
I also found the PID for the PWM modulation of the rear clutch. PWM = Pulse Width Modulation...it sends more current to the rear clutch to tell it to "lock up" more and engages the AWD. 0% is not engaged and 100% is obviously full engaged. I haven't tried to see if Torque can actually read the 4x4 module or not as this parameter isn't in the PCM. Still have to figure out the formula but since its a percentage it shouldn't be hard.
AWD PWM Clutch Status
PID 22D128
Formula TBD
I figured out the wastegate status %:
PID 220462
Formula A/128*100
I also found the PID for the PWM modulation of the rear clutch. PWM = Pulse Width Modulation...it sends more current to the rear clutch to tell it to "lock up" more and engages the AWD. 0% is not engaged and 100% is obviously full engaged. I haven't tried to see if Torque can actually read the 4x4 module or not as this parameter isn't in the PCM. Still have to figure out the formula but since its a percentage it shouldn't be hard.
AWD PWM Clutch Status
PID 22D128
Formula TBD
ecoboostsho
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I also don't know that the CAC and IAT2 readings don't make sense...the air would be at its coolest right out of the intercooler. IAT2 is literally sitting on top of the hot intake/motor and the air has to travel in a pipe (no matter how short) to get there which will cause additional heating. I actually think it is probably pretty close.
ecoboostsho
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Misfire Monitor
PID 220700
Returns a very long response of "00820000" indicating 0 misfires on the scantool. Need to think about this one for a bit.
I am also updating the original (1st) post so you don't have to go hunting through all of the individual posts to pull everything together.
I have an excel CSV file I am working on that will just let you import all of these in Torque as well.
PID 220700
Returns a very long response of "00820000" indicating 0 misfires on the scantool. Need to think about this one for a bit.
I am also updating the original (1st) post so you don't have to go hunting through all of the individual posts to pull everything together.
I have an excel CSV file I am working on that will just let you import all of these in Torque as well.
ecoboostsho said:
I'm not sure about this one, when taking the readings with Forscan CAC is higher than IAT1 and then IAT2 is a bit higher than that, maybe someone on here can give us some more info on this. Which to me makes sense, I believe that the CAC cannot cool the air after the turbos even close to ambient.
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ecoboostsho
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Okay I actually agree with you - I just didn't state it very well. I guess I meant to say the CAC should be the coolest of the two readings between CAC and IAT2. I did not mean to imply it would be ambient. That said if you aren't creating boost then the air isn't being compressed and therefore very little heat would get added by the turbochargers. I can see the CAC temp being close to ambient in this situation. Now if you are getting on the car then the temp should definitely rise above ambient (and it seems to?).
This morning test ride at one point showed ambient at 68, IAT 1 at 79, CAC at 35, and IAT 2 at 116. Hate to add my confusion to the mix but my IAT readings all make sense to me but the CAC seems way cool. Like way lower than ambient. Now if the CAC was chilled and we were reading CAC chiller temp and not CAC air temp, all my readings would be making perfect sense. The CAC is not chilled....right?
ecoboostsho
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Larry. CAC is in degrees C. Multiply by 1.8 +32
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I should have been consistent but forgot to convert that one. Apologies.
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QuickSilver
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Larry, when you say you 'added a couple of gauges' how did you do that? My Torque Pro app doesn't offer CAC or IAT2. Did you add the PID's or what was the process? Keep it 5th grade level if you can, I'm a hardware/pull a motor kinda guy not a software/write code kinda guy :-[
QuickSilver I'm the student in this thread just following instructions. One of the first thing you run into with Torque Pro is the lack of some of the cool gauges that other Mfgs seem to have out there but not for us Ford folks. It seems Ford PID's are very hard to come by. Then ecoboostsho decides to singlehandedly make some PID's available for the rest of us grateful users by reverse engineering. He has already put out some very good instructions for using the "add custom PID" menu in Torque and you should be able to easily find it. If not ...speak up. Someone will help. I will pause to let more knowledgeable people handle your questions
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PID Installation Instructions: (also updated in first post)
Bulk Import: (Note I’m not sure this will really be easier for someone that isn’t a little familiar with windows and basic computer functions. You may be better off manually entering them one at a time – see procedure below.)
The following will let you add all of the PIDs defined in this post to Torque via the “Import” feature on Torque.
Your first step is to hook up your phone to your computer via a USB cable (the one you more than likely charge your phone with). You can do this in other ways as well but you need to put the attached “Taurus PIDs.csv” file in the proper Torque directory on the phone. Open up a file explorer and then navigate to the drive letter that is your phone. You should see some directories (varies by phone and number of storage cards). Torque should be on your internal SD card (Unless you told it to go someplace else or your phone directed it there) and the directory you are looking for is labeled “.torque”. If you don’t see .torque you are going to have to “show hidden files” in windows explorer – this varies by version so I suggest you Google it. You then select the “Extended PIDs” directory. Copy the attached file in to that directory and then disconnect your phone.
Once that file is there you can select the “settings” menu off the main screen…scroll down to “Custom PIDs” and then “Import”. You should see “Taurus PIDs” listed in the menu. Select them and then go add them to your screen!
WARNING: You may choose to “clear the list” of the existing custom PIDs to keep things cleaned but keep in mind this will strand any gauges you already have on the screen unless they are named exactly the same as in the import file. This means you will have to add them back to the screen one at a time and you may be “irritated”.
Adding a single PID:
Add a custom PID in Torque by going to the "Settings" section off the main screen.
Enter the following for the fields it prompts you for:
"OBD2 Mode and PID" = 221E1C
"Long Name" = Trans Temp
"Short Name" = Trans T
"Minimum Value" = -40
"Maximum Value" = 260
"Scale Factor" = 1
"Unit Type" = deg
"Equation" = (((signed(A)*256)+B)*(9/8)+320)/10
Leave the OBD Header blank
Adding gauges to your Torque Screen:
Go to the Realtime Information display from the main menu and then find a place on the screen you’d like to put your new gauge. Long press and then “Add Display”. Pick a gauge type and then scroll to find your new PIDs. Position it on the screen and then repeat the whole process until your gauges are all populated on the screen.
*Final note. If you open the .CSV file in Excel be careful as it will immediately interpret two of the PIDS as “exponential notation” and hose them up…You can open the file without issue just don’t save it unless you know what you are doing!
(I removed the file from this post and am going to just leave it on the first post so I only have to update it one place. Just click on the "1" to get to the first page of the post.)
Bulk Import: (Note I’m not sure this will really be easier for someone that isn’t a little familiar with windows and basic computer functions. You may be better off manually entering them one at a time – see procedure below.)
The following will let you add all of the PIDs defined in this post to Torque via the “Import” feature on Torque.
Your first step is to hook up your phone to your computer via a USB cable (the one you more than likely charge your phone with). You can do this in other ways as well but you need to put the attached “Taurus PIDs.csv” file in the proper Torque directory on the phone. Open up a file explorer and then navigate to the drive letter that is your phone. You should see some directories (varies by phone and number of storage cards). Torque should be on your internal SD card (Unless you told it to go someplace else or your phone directed it there) and the directory you are looking for is labeled “.torque”. If you don’t see .torque you are going to have to “show hidden files” in windows explorer – this varies by version so I suggest you Google it. You then select the “Extended PIDs” directory. Copy the attached file in to that directory and then disconnect your phone.
Once that file is there you can select the “settings” menu off the main screen…scroll down to “Custom PIDs” and then “Import”. You should see “Taurus PIDs” listed in the menu. Select them and then go add them to your screen!
WARNING: You may choose to “clear the list” of the existing custom PIDs to keep things cleaned but keep in mind this will strand any gauges you already have on the screen unless they are named exactly the same as in the import file. This means you will have to add them back to the screen one at a time and you may be “irritated”.
Adding a single PID:
Add a custom PID in Torque by going to the "Settings" section off the main screen.
Enter the following for the fields it prompts you for:
"OBD2 Mode and PID" = 221E1C
"Long Name" = Trans Temp
"Short Name" = Trans T
"Minimum Value" = -40
"Maximum Value" = 260
"Scale Factor" = 1
"Unit Type" = deg
"Equation" = (((signed(A)*256)+B)*(9/8)+320)/10
Leave the OBD Header blank
Adding gauges to your Torque Screen:
Go to the Realtime Information display from the main menu and then find a place on the screen you’d like to put your new gauge. Long press and then “Add Display”. Pick a gauge type and then scroll to find your new PIDs. Position it on the screen and then repeat the whole process until your gauges are all populated on the screen.
*Final note. If you open the .CSV file in Excel be careful as it will immediately interpret two of the PIDS as “exponential notation” and hose them up…You can open the file without issue just don’t save it unless you know what you are doing!
(I removed the file from this post and am going to just leave it on the first post so I only have to update it one place. Just click on the "1" to get to the first page of the post.)
QuickSilver you might want to just add one custom formula at a time by following the above "add a single PID" instructions. I think it's easier to start with. After inputting all the info at the bottom of the screen you will see a test button press that and if you get a "result" you can press the save button. Then go to your gauge display to where you can add a gauge and when you scroll the list of available gauges you will find the one created by your new custom PID.
