ACES IV - An effective octane booster and anti-wear additive?
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FoMoCoSHO said:
Remember that the most efficient burn also produces the most power. Typically on an engine without ACES IV, you have to richen up the fuel mixture to protect the heads or a lean condition....especially with ethanol.....will occur and damage the heads/pistons etc.
Since using ACES IV will richen up the fuel mixture anyway, you can back off the amount of fuel, get a better more powerful burn due to the efficiency and lubricity is imparted copiously/plentifully so that the heads, pistons and valves are not damaged!
6 times less ring and bore wear, 4 times less stem and guide wear and 5 times less valve seat and face damage!
Worth every penny to do all of that for sure!
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J-Will said:
Think of ACES IV in this way. There is Elmer's Glue and then there is Epoxy Glue. Elmer's is like all the additives on the shelf.....single phase and works for one thing only. ACES IV is like Epoxy glue in that this type of glue has a catalyst reaction. Multiple stages and phases.
ACES IV doesn't need to be agitated or shaken at all. It is perfectly fine to put in after you fill up. We suggest that you fill the tank all the way up initially and then treat the whole tank. It will catalyze in about 40 seconds just sitting there. After that point you only treat the fuel that you add.....so 12 gallons....2 oz......15 gallons.....2.5 oz.......18 gallons...3 oz etc.
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SHOdded said:
Remember that 104+ contains MMT with petroleum distillates as a vehicle. The manganese is their proprietary additive that makes the plugs impossible to read. The oxides from MMT are very very abrasive and will erode the cylinders and components over time. I have seen engines that run this stuff and it is not pretty!
ACES IV works better and has no manganese. 6 times less ring and bore wear, 4 times less stem and guide wear with 5 times less valve seat and face damage.
Some things to consider!
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FoMoCoSHO said:
No, it does not need to be agitated or shaken. It is a catalyst that is stable. Think of ACES IV like the activator for body filler. Once it is put together, the catalyst reactions occur.
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I tend to agree with you after looking at the plugs when I changed them a few months back. This was after 4 tankfuls. Have you had it analyzed for confirmation though? They keep stating they DON'T use MMT in their formulation. Is there a "minimum" they can legally slide by with?BND 370 Hemi said:
http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/104-faqs
No. 104+® brand products contain neither alcohol nor MMT® Fuel Additive* . MMT® is dangerous to spark plugs, catalytic converters, and OBD (on-board diagnostic) oxygen sensor systems. It is not recommended by vehicle manufacturers, and is considered an environmental hazard.
Could they possibly be using Ferrocene or another organometallic?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrocene
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SHOdded said:
Those pictures do show a metallic in the fuel but doesn't look like a full MMT content. It could be ferrous picrate like you said. Any organometallic complex is also a build up product and very bad for fuel systems, combustion in general as it needs a chelate compound that tries to strip it back off and ends up in the oil causing all kinds of wear issues in the oil system.
We have been preaching to many people about not using any metallics at all as they are really bad. ACES IV contains NO petroleum distillates, polymers, alcohols, acids or metals.
Here are two pictures of a 3.8L V6 running for 100,000 miles on these platinum tipped plugs using our oils and our ACES IV:
Even the price for 18 gallons of 104+ comes out to 44.3 cents per gallon where if you use ACES IV in the quart it is 41.6 cents and if you get a gallon form it is 35 cents per gallon. So our product is not only better but cheaper!
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I neglected to mention that ANY METALS in the fuel are bad news long term. We have to add metal deactivation compounds in ACES IV to deal with the normal copper and vanadium that is inherent in the fuels that cause gum, varnish and deposits.
Ferrous Picrate, Ferro organo metallic complexes , any copper, platinum, cerium or rhodium products in any form should be avoided. They cause such problems that we had to independently test ACES for all of these metals as no metals are allowed if you supply a fuel additive to the military for military vehicles:
AL,Sb,Ba,B,Ca,Cr,Cu,Fe,Pb,K,Mg,Mo,Na,Ni,P,Si,Ag,Sn,Zn,Sr,V,Ti,and Cd all below 1 ppm!
The additives that contain these are also acidic and cause problems with your oils as well.
These are the facts even though there may be people here that are presently fans of them!
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Brian
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Ferrous Picrate, Ferro organo metallic complexes , any copper, platinum, cerium or rhodium products in any form should be avoided. They cause such problems that we had to independently test ACES for all of these metals as no metals are allowed if you supply a fuel additive to the military for military vehicles:
AL,Sb,Ba,B,Ca,Cr,Cu,Fe,Pb,K,Mg,Mo,Na,Ni,P,Si,Ag,Sn,Zn,Sr,V,Ti,and Cd all below 1 ppm!
The additives that contain these are also acidic and cause problems with your oils as well.
These are the facts even though there may be people here that are presently fans of them!
Regards,
Brian
BND Automotive LLC
440-821-9040
www.bndautomotive.com
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FoMoCoSHO said:
I like it for now.
Let me send you what I was thinking about as we use it on all our oil labels.
Thanks again!
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Brian
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