Finally found out what failed on my 13 SHO

FoMoCoSHO said:
Data degradation.

All datalogs thus far have been unable to provide the info needed to tweak my tune.

I like my tune but I am not at all happy with the SCT hardware or software.

Too bad there aren't better choices.

Is this a Ford / SCT communication thing? Torrie tunes these all the time with the X4. I am curious as I have been contemplating this route for a while now.


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ShoBoat said:
FoMoCoSHO said:
Data degradation.

All datalogs thus far have been unable to provide the info needed to tweak my tune.

I like my tune but I am not at all happy with the SCT hardware or software.

Too bad there aren't better choices.

Is this a Ford / SCT communication thing? Torrie tunes these all the time with the X4. I am curious as I have been contemplating this route for a while now.


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Great question. I to have been curious. Hard to see these relatively cheap handheld devices being able to break down all the info into mili-seconds real accurately in my simple mind.
 
ShoBoat said:
FoMoCoSHO said:
Data degradation.

All datalogs thus far have been unable to provide the info needed to tweak my tune.

I like my tune but I am not at all happy with the SCT hardware or software.

Too bad there aren't better choices.

Is this a Ford / SCT communication thing? Torrie tunes these all the time with the X4. I am curious as I have been contemplating this route for a while now.


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Honestly I don't know what the issue is.

I haven't heard of anyone else having the issue so I wouldn't consider my experience the norm.



 
PokerMunkee said:
Hmm. I see sub zero temps often.  Do I need to take precaution?

Dan,  did you have OEM tstat?

I would highly recommend not going WOT in sub 40 degrees.  The air is much better causing the car to run lean/detonate.  A lot of times you won't hear the detonation until its too late.
 
black99lightning said:
PokerMunkee said:
Hmm. I see sub zero temps often.  Do I need to take precaution?

Dan,  did you have OEM tstat?

I would highly recommend not going WOT in sub 40 degrees.  The air is much better causing the car to run lean/detonate.  A lot of times you won't hear the detonation until its too late.
I don't understand why that is an issue if the oil is warm. The car will compensate for the denser air by requesting less boost if I'm not mistaken.

At least that's how mine behaves.
 
black99lightning said:
PokerMunkee said:
Hmm. I see sub zero temps often.  Do I need to take precaution?

Dan,  did you have OEM tstat?

I would highly recommend not going WOT in sub 40 degrees.  The air is much better causing the car to run lean/detonate.  A lot of times you won't hear the detonation until its too late.

In temps below 0° WOT is a definite no no , doesn't matter how "warmed up" it is .
 
SwampRat said:
black99lightning said:
PokerMunkee said:
Hmm. I see sub zero temps often.  Do I need to take precaution?

Dan,  did you have OEM tstat?

I would highly recommend not going WOT in sub 40 degrees.  The air is much better causing the car to run lean/detonate.  A lot of times you won't hear the detonation until its too late.

In temps below 0° WOT is a definite no no , doesn't matter how "warmed up" it is .
I feel like if that were true, it would be clearly stated in the owners manual.

Unless of course we are speaking strictly about tuned cars.

 
Why take a chance with WOT at sub zero temps with the MUCH higher probability of parts breakage ?

I may be wrong , but how many drag strips are operational at these temperature extremes ?  Something to ponder IMHO .
 
SwampRat said:
Why take a chance with WOT at sub zero temps with the MUCH higher probability of parts breakage ?

I may be wrong , but how many drag strips are operational at these temperature extremes ?  Something to ponder IMHO .

When I put on my snow tires, I like to pretend I am driving a rally car in the snow. Is that bad? ;)


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SwampRat said:
Why take a chance with WOT at sub zero temps with the MUCH higher probability of parts breakage ?

I may be wrong , but how many drag strips are operational at these temperature extremes ?  Something to ponder IMHO .
Because WOT is fun?
 
FoMoCoSHO said:
SwampRat said:
Why take a chance with WOT at sub zero temps with the MUCH higher probability of parts breakage ?

I may be wrong , but how many drag strips are operational at these temperature extremes ?  Something to ponder IMHO .
Because WOT is fun?

WOT can be tons of Fun for sure ...... just hope your wallet is funny  :clown: :
 
Maybe we should switch to a HAI (Hot Air Intake) kit at colder temps?  Remove the Shoboat mod on the Airaid?  Ideally, engine & trans should be at operating temp to gain max performance.  If anything, if the engine is at OT and trans is not, I'd expect something in the trans to break and the ECU to throttle back best it can on sudden demand.

Coz nobody can disprove it, my pet theory relates to humidity & condensation forming a storm front within the combustion chamber.  Maybe we should line the intake with water absorption crystals and dry out the air :)
 
SwampRat said:
FoMoCoSHO said:
SwampRat said:
Why take a chance with WOT at sub zero temps with the MUCH higher probability of parts breakage ?

I may be wrong , but how many drag strips are operational at these temperature extremes ?  Something to ponder IMHO .
Because WOT is fun?

WOT can be tons of Fun for sure ...... just hope your wallet is funny  :clown: :
I have a war fund set aside for any contingencies. Not like having a nasty motor built would be the worst thing in the world.
 
Just watch your knock on the first few cold days to see how it acts. If it knocks then yes you have potential damages if you don't change the variable that is causing it. If you don't see knock at sub 0 Temps then it is in fact safe to drive at wot till you are content. I think everyone forgets what these engines are capable of. Yes they have weak spots, yes tuning makes these weak spots even more prominent. It's up to you to make the correct adjustments.

In stock form these engines have been used in the farthest reaches of the north. Not just daily driven. They have been pushed to the limits with great success.
 
Lol that's all I have to say. Maybe K&N should change their marketing to winter HAI.


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