Outside Temperature inaccuracy

Vortech347

New member
Does anyone else's outside temp reading completely suck?

Example mine has been stuck at 58* degree's from this morning until now.  It's fricken 76*.  I've had it get stuck a few times at various temps.  I've tried doing a "master reset" on my sync.  NADA.....

Fricken $47k car and it can't read the outside temp correctly.
 
Yes, it's highly annoying.  I have noticed that my A/C sometimes isn't working properly when it's reading significantly lower than actual.

Dealer says it's normal, but none of my countless Fords with climate control dating back to '93 have had this issue.  I had all body modules updated, but still not fixed.
 
Mine just did this starting this summer.  It's only happened a few times but it does eventually read the correct temp, 5-10 minutes later.  Definitely annoying as the auto temp control doesn't work correctly when it thinks it's much cooler outside than it really is.
 
99% of the time it reads about 10 degrees warmer than it really is outside.  Doesn't matter what the outside temp is, hot or cold, it's always reading 10 degrees warmer.

The other 1% of the time, it's completely off.  It might be 40 degrees outside and it will read like 115 or something crazy.

I figured it was just my sensor, but i guess they're all junk.
 
Vortech347 said:
ZSHO said:
I would try removing the Negative ground cable on the battery for 30 min or try performing a Kam Reset. Z  ! No longer available

Hopefully it doesn't become a necessary habit.

I doubt that it will help based on the fact that I had a whole new strategy along with all body modules updated and the problem persists.  Worth a shot, but...
 
sholxgt said:
Vortech347 said:
ZSHO said:
I would try removing the Negative ground cable on the battery for 30 min or try performing a Kam Reset. Z  ! No longer available

Hopefully it doesn't become a necessary habit.

I doubt that it will help based on the fact that I had a whole new strategy along with all body modules updated and the problem persists.  Worth a shot, but...

Yea, I mean I've had my sync reset at least 35 times with re-flashing the car.
 
Behind the front bumper cover, passenger side I believe.  Let me verify.

https://secure.revolutionparts.com/levittown-ford/ford/taurus/dg1z12a647a/2014-year/sho-trim/3-5l-v6-gas-engine/hvac-cat/automatic-temperature-controls-scat/?part_name=air-temp-sensor

ac4a86ce95eb53e2c520a5314632360d.png


Part #18/19

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-Lincoln-Ambient-Temp-Air-Temperature-Sensor-OEM-NEW-Motorcraft-DY1160-/321699591910
s-l1600.jpg
 
Maybe the connector just needs cleaning/greasing!  So many projects you can do with the bumper cover off :D
 
Be forewarned. I replaced my sensor.  Still doesn't work right . Always reads about 8 to 10 degrees high.
 
Ok i think it is called the outside air temperature sensor possibly.  Anyway, found this discussion over on the Escape forum, might help here as well:
http://www.fordescape.org/forum/2013-2016-escape-general-discussion-forum/3362-external-temperature-reading-wrong-2.html?amp=1

centex's Avatar
centex 01:18 PM 12-22-2013
Maybe more than you want to know about the outside air temp monitor, clipped from the 2013-2014 Ford Escape Workshop Manual, page 413-01:
Outside Air Temperature Display
The Ambient Air Temperature (AAT) sensor provides the Ambient Air Temperature (AAT) data used for the outside air temperature display in the IPC. The Ambient Air Temperature (AAT) sensor is hardwired to the PCM through separate input and return circuits. The PCM provides a reference voltage to the Ambient Air Temperature (AAT) sensor and monitors the change in voltage resulting from changes in resistance as determined by outside air temperature. The PCM filters the Ambient Air Temperature (AAT) input and sends the BCM the air ambient temperature filtered message over the HS-CAN. The BCM sends the air ambient temperature filtered message to the IPC over the MS-CAN.
Due to the location of the Ambient Air Temperature (AAT) sensor in the front grill area, it is greatly influenced by heat generated from the engine compartment at low vehicle speeds and at engine idle. For this reason the outside air temperature value displayed in the IPC does not update in the upward (hotter) direction under 33 km/h (20 mph). This update strategy is used because the PCM is unable to determine whether the increase in temperature is truly from an ambient temperature rise or by heat generated from the engine compartment.
The outside air temperature display in the IPC updates in the upward (hotter) direction under either of the following situations:
- if the vehicle is driven over 33 km/h (20 mph) continuously without the vehicle speed dropping below 33 km/h (20 mph) for approximately 90 seconds.
- if the vehicle is allowed to sit with the engine off for approximately 6 hours (the outside air temperature display in the IPC immediately updates to reflect the current ambient conditions since the engine has cooled sufficiently and no longer has an effect on the outside air temperature sensor reading).
NOTE: If the vehicle speed drops below 33 km/h (20 mph) before the outside air temperature display in the IPC begins to update, the PCM logic resets and the time starts over.
Because this filtering strategy exists, it may be necessary to drive the vehicle continuously above 33 km/h (20 mph) for approximately 90 seconds when observing the outside air temperature display operation. After the vehicle has been driven above 33 km/h (20 mph) for 90 seconds, the outside air temperature display in the IPC starts to rise (filter upward), increasing toward the actual outside air temperature. Depending on the difference between what the outside air temperature is displaying in the IPC and the actual outside temperature, it can take several minutes for the outside air temperature display in the IPC to reach the outside temp.
The outside air temperature display in the IPC does not filter in the downward (colder) direction and always displays the coldest temperature detected by the sensor even when the vehicle is stationary. When the outside Ambient Air Temperature (AAT) is lower than the temperature displayed in the IPC, the IPC immediately updates the displayed temperature downward to reflect the colder ambient air temperature, even at idle.
 
Why in the F$@# Did they put it in such a stupid location when it's worked fine for 20 years in other spots?

This stuff is just aggravating.

I get in my car, it's 40* in the morning.  I start it.  Car says is 72*.  WHAT THE HELL.....
 
Haven't pd attention to this phenomenon since it's been a while since I have had a vehicle that displays the ambient temp (tho I do see it while I log).  That said, I have not had an issue as far as I can remember with the AAT in the logs, always been very close to actual ambient, regardless of heat soak.  Maybe there is a ground issue, or like Z mentioned, a calibration issue?
 
It wouldn't matter as much if it didn't affect the A/C.  They should not have tied the two together.  Driving for 10 minutes with the family complaining about the A/C not working while the car is reading that it's 70 outside when it's really 90 is BS!

Hitting the max A/C button gets the A/C working, but I should not have to do that.  Eventually it gets the temp right and the A/C returns to normal.

Dealer said it is normal and there's not a way to correct the issue.

Won't find that in a Honda, Toyota, etc.  These modern Ford's just seem to have way too many irritating issues.
 
Back
Top