Any regrets with your purchase?

SwampRat said:
Yup .... it's a minor thing but the SHO and MKS don't have turn signals integrated into the mirrors , yet the cheaper Fusion and MKZ  have em ...... go figure .

Don't forget the XSport! ;D
 
SwampRat said:
JimiJak said:
SwampRat said:
Yup .... it's a minor thing but the SHO and MKS don't have turn signals integrated into the mirrors , yet the cheaper Fusion and MKZ  have em ...... go figure .

Don't forget the XSport! ;D

Does the XSport have em ?

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They're not all smoked and polished...but these are!  ;)
 
Why all the buzz about lights in the mirrors??  That is pretty much absent from my list of wants and needs, regardless of MSRP.
 
Guys don't get me wrong,i love the car that's why my wife hates me,its just those few issues with the front end and etc,The other day went to the dealer for a complimentary oil change,while waiting was checking out a fusion the car felt more solid,especially the sheet metal,spoke with the service manager regarding that he smiled and said on the sho they to compensate on the sheet metal because the car is so heavy,if the sheet metal was more durable car will weigh about 5,000,no regrets here.
 
I'm young but I prefer a simple cars give me power and traction.  Remote start and heated seats steering wheel and I'm happy. I do like the blis system though does work good
 
ZSHO said:
I respect your opinion about modding the outside door mirrors,but you have cars half the price with that factory option included

And you also have cars that cost $15K+ more than don't actually have cooled seats or a heated rear seat.  E class have ventilated front seats not a/c.  Also no heated rear seat. 
 
I assure the steel on you SHO is other same gauge steal as any other. I know on the fusion ford has begun to play with thiner steel. But this only being used on the roof. But typical sheet metal thickness is .30 the fusion roof is .25. 


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crash712us said:
I assure the steel on you SHO is other same gauge steal as any other. I know on the fusion ford has begun to play with thiner steel. But this only being used on the roof. But typical sheet metal thickness is .30 the fusion roof is .25. 


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hasn't the 2015 F-150 gone to aluminum even?

Can anyone tell me why all cars aren't aluminum?
 
Traditionally, the reasons were that aluminum is not as crush resistant or rust-resistant as steel, despite the obvious weight savings advantage.  Not to mention that iron is just a tad bit more abundant than aluminum.  Even now, we want T304 stainless steel piping on our exhaust systems rather than galvanized aluminum.  I guess with advances in safety engineering and environmental protection techniques, it is more feasible now to use Al instead of Fe-Ni.  Body shapes are also more complicated, and aluminum is easier to shape than steel.  Weight savings = better mpg = happier EPA.  IMHO.
 
Yes the new f150 is supposed to be made of aluminum. Why all car are not? That's a tough question, and I am sure we will see more and more car that will be made of aluminum in the future. But aluminum is a whole nother animal, how it's formed welded is much different than steel. My thought is why ford didn't the truck 1st is purely EPA rating as the ford tuck is a big part of there sales it's also a large impact on there fleet EPA rating. Big changes is headed for the automotive industry. As I think by 2020 car manufactures fleet EPA ratings has to be like 45-50mpg. 


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I was disappointed the new '15 Charger won't have AWD in the R/T trim.  Only available on the V6, boo. 

So, for $30K, you can get:

- 2013 Taurus SHO - Best value.  No other car has the options and power.
- 2013 Charger R/T AWD - Similar options to the SHO, no turbo.
- 2013 Infiniti G37x (CPO) - Pretty blah.  No turbo, no remote start, no cooled seats, no heated wheel, etc etc.  Gotta bump up to M37x/56x for more options, but seem like grandpa cars.
- 2011 BMW 335xi (CPO) - Fast, tuneable, nice AWD system, awesome handling.  Not a lot of options, not even a backup camera.  $$ to maintain/repair.  Small.
- 2011 Lexus IS350 AWD - Nice interior, exterior styling a little feminine for me.  No turbo, small.
- 2012 Acura TL SH-AWD - Nice interior, nice AWD system.  No turbo, no remote start. 
- 2015 Subaru WRX Limited (New) - Tempting, awesome resale value, not a lot of options/luxury obviously.
- 2015 Audi A3 (New) - Base 1.8T.  Might be able to get a 2.0T Quattro for low $30s.  Small.



A lot of options.  I have a lot of test driving to do.  So far leaning towards a new WRX or a used 2013 SHO.  The WRX will have to be really fun to drive to bypass all of the luxury and toys on the SHO.

Anyone raced a 335xi?  I would think if both tuned, the 335xi will have a slight edge.  I think they do 12.5 in the 1/4. 
 
PokerMunkee said:
I was disappointed the new '15 Charger won't have AWD in the R/T trim.  Only available on the V6, boo. 

So, for $30K, you can get:

- 2013 Taurus SHO - Best value.  No other car has the options and power.
- 2013 Charger R/T AWD - Similar options to the SHO, no turbo.
- 2013 Infiniti G37x (CPO) - Pretty blah.  No turbo, no remote start, no cooled seats, no heated wheel, etc etc.  Gotta bump up to M37x/56x for more options, but seem like grandpa cars.
- 2011 BMW 335xi (CPO) - Fast, tuneable, nice AWD system, awesome handling.  Not a lot of options, not even a backup camera.  $$ to maintain/repair.  Small.
- 2011 Lexus IS350 AWD - Nice interior, exterior styling a little feminine for me.  No turbo, small.
- 2012 Acura TL SH-AWD - Nice interior, nice AWD system.  No turbo, no remote start. 
- 2015 Subaru WRX Limited (New) - Tempting, awesome resale value, not a lot of options/luxury obviously.
- 2015 Audi A3 (New) - Base 1.8T.  Might be able to get a 2.0T Quattro for low $30s.  Small.



A lot of options.  I have a lot of test driving to do.  So far leaning towards a new WRX or a used 2013 SHO.  The WRX will have to be really fun to drive to bypass all of the luxury and toys on the SHO.

The value proposition of a lightly used SHO/MKS/Flex is hard to beat.  I did all the options and research back in 2013 and the SHO for me came out way on top.  Fullsize, options, performance, mpg's, etc. etc.
 
What???
regarding the Charger and AWD only for the V6 for the 2015 model.

Chrysler finally beat the SHO (Interceptor) at the track during police testing with their new Pursuit model and upgraded AWD system.  The Charger RT (track pack) is the basis of the Pursuit police model, just like the SHO-PP is very similar to the police Interceptor.

Why would Chrysler not put their new and improved AWD on the 8 models  ???

makes little sense...
 
DRII said:
What???
regarding the Charger and AWD only for the V6 for the 2015 model.

Chrysler finally beat the SHO (Interceptor) at the track during police testing with their new Pursuit model and upgraded AWD system.  The Charger RT (track pack) is the basis of the Pursuit police model, just like the SHO-PP is very similar to the police Interceptor.

Why would Chrysler not put their new and improved AWD on the 8 models  ???

makes little sense...

Yeah, don't get it.  Must have been a volume thing. I really like the changes in the '15 Charger too, sucks :(
 
DRII said:
What???
regarding the Charger and AWD only for the V6 for the 2015 model.

Chrysler finally beat the SHO (Interceptor) at the track during police testing with their new Pursuit model and upgraded AWD system.  The Charger RT (track pack) is the basis of the Pursuit police model, just like the SHO-PP is very similar to the police Interceptor.

Why would Chrysler not put their new and improved AWD on the 8 models  ???

makes little sense...

I got stuck behind a Charger Police car this morning - with Manufacturer plates!  Everyone was slowing down for him.  Nobody knew he wasn't a cop.  Ugh.
 
DRII said:
What???
regarding the Charger and AWD only for the V6 for the 2015 model.

Chrysler finally beat the SHO (Interceptor) at the track during police testing with their new Pursuit model and upgraded AWD system.  The Charger RT (track pack) is the basis of the Pursuit police model, just like the SHO-PP is very similar to the police Interceptor.

Why would Chrysler not put their new and improved AWD on the 8 models  ???

makes little sense...

Because it doesn't work right yet?.... and they are gonna let the taxpayer and LEOs do the beta testing?
 
Looks aside, now that that wretched 5 speed auto is gone on the 8 cylinder optioned cars, and the 8 speed is in, it's a slick car.

Personally, I think it looks fresh. Awesome car overall.

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