AJPTurbo boost regulator mod with EcoPowerParts charge pipes

[ZSHO]

I used a simular 3/8" ID Hose, 1/4" NPT Male for reference. IDK.  Z               
     

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190688070475?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Tapatalk doesn't show the pic, computer does.. where did you have this connected?


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Brake booster vacuum line for reference. Z

 

[derfdog15]

For extra reference for anyone interested.

As ZSHO/Myself Have Mentioned in the past/this thread, the vacuum line for the brake booster uses a 3/8" hose, so if tapping that you need a T with 3/8" barbs to insert.

The TIP reference on the piping from the rear turbo to intercooler, uses 1/4" hose, so you would need a T with 1/4" barbs.

For the wastegate itself/ most wastegates/most BOVs they recommend 1/4" hose as well, and that is what the supplied nipples usually support. 6mm hose works as well.

f8tlSHO, my only concern with that location is that with the gate open, it may be too close to the gate and have a pressure drop causing the gate to chatter/oscillate between open and closed. But go ahead and test it out if it isn't too much trouble for ya, would definitely make line routing super easy.

 

[f8tlSHO]

For extra reference for anyone interested.

As ZSHO/Myself Have Mentioned in the past/this thread, the vacuum line for the brake booster uses a 3/8" hose, so if tapping that you need a T with 3/8" barbs to insert.

The TIP reference on the piping from the rear turbo to intercooler, uses 1/4" hose, so you would need a T with 1/4" barbs.

For the wastegate itself/ most wastegates/most BOVs they recommend 1/4" hose as well, and that is what the supplied nipples usually support. 6mm hose works as well.

f8tlSHO, my only concern with that location is that with the gate open, it may be too close to the gate and have a pressure drop causing the gate to chatter/oscillate between open and closed. But go ahead and test it out if it isn't too much trouble for ya, would definitely make line routing super easy.

Even easier to take the car in for service. Pop off put noise thingy back on, done.. I just drilled and tapped a hole in the pipe. I will attempt this and see how it goes


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[ZSHO]

Great overall Discussion by far,sticky anyone?  Due LMK. Z 

 

[MiWiAu]

Slightly off-topic (as I tend to do), but I'd just like to say that I REALLY appreciate the ingenuity of people on this forum and their willingness to experiment and collaborate.


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[derfdog15]

Great overall Discussion by far,sticky anyone?  Due LMK. Z 

I would be more than happy for this to be stickied if you see it fit!

For extra reference for anyone interested.

As ZSHO/Myself Have Mentioned in the past/this thread, the vacuum line for the brake booster uses a 3/8" hose, so if tapping that you need a T with 3/8" barbs to insert.

The TIP reference on the piping from the rear turbo to intercooler, uses 1/4" hose, so you would need a T with 1/4" barbs.

For the wastegate itself/ most wastegates/most BOVs they recommend 1/4" hose as well, and that is what the supplied nipples usually support. 6mm hose works as well.

f8tlSHO, my only concern with that location is that with the gate open, it may be too close to the gate and have a pressure drop causing the gate to chatter/oscillate between open and closed. But go ahead and test it out if it isn't too much trouble for ya, would definitely make line routing super easy.

Even easier to take the car in for service. Pop off put noise thingy back on, done.. I just drilled and tapped a hole in the pipe. I will attempt this and see how it goes


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For sure let us know how it works out/post some logs if you can. I am also interested to see how the smaller combination of springs + MBC using the actual pipe as reference will work out. I assume you are going to use the same port, or another on the same pipe for the MBC when that happens?

Slightly off-topic (as I tend to do), but I'd just like to say that I REALLY appreciate the ingenuity of people on this forum and their willingness to experiment and collaborate.


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I enjoy the tangents! And wholeheartedly second that this forum is great and full of quality people. Glad to be a part of it.

 

[f8tlSHO]

Derfdog15 the port will be used to run to the mbc then to the gate. Only 1 port needed. I will definitely post results and logs for the masses. I still have to get a 1.5" hose to connect to the noise thingy port. I have the tune already from bradley. It snowed here last night, so I have to wait till the roads are all cleaned up to do a "full" log.

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[derfdog15]

Derfdog15 the port will be used to run to the mbc then to the gate. Only 1 port needed. I will definitely post results and logs for the masses. I still have to get a 1.5" hose to connect to the noise thingy port. I have the tune already from bradley. It snowed here last night, so I have to wait till the roads are all cleaned up to do a "full" log.

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Got it! Good luck. Also for reference, I bought 1.5 feet of hose from Autozone the other day, they apparently sell it by the foot from a 50 ft. roll. It was only $1.59 per foot plus tax, and the guy cut me 2 ft and charged for just one. Pretty awesome IMO.

 

[MiWiAu]

I was looking for a boost reference line directly off the intake ( not intake piping) didn't see anything I could use....

I am putting the wastegate on, was wondering if I could just weld a fitting right on the tube attached to the wastegate. See picture, where the black dot is. Just wondering if this would be good or bad being so close to the wastegate

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Interesting flange interfaces on that guy, particularly the connection to the bottom aluminum housing that contains the diaphragm. If you end up with any leaks, maybe consider reassembling with some RTV and thread locker on the screws.

While I wouldn't try using that in a traditional application, it may be just fine in this (much) less severe environment. Definitely interested to watch this evolve.

Do you have additional pictures or a link to the gate you bought? Curious if my idea for a Tial preload adjuster might work for this one as well. If so, might be a less expensive alternative to an auxiliary MBC. Could you take a couple of pictures of the internals as well, when you get a chance?


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[derfdog15]

I was looking for a boost reference line directly off the intake ( not intake piping) didn't see anything I could use....

I am putting the wastegate on, was wondering if I could just weld a fitting right on the tube attached to the wastegate. See picture, where the black dot is. Just wondering if this would be good or bad being so close to the wastegate

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Interesting flange interfaces on that guy, particularly the connection to the bottom aluminum housing that contains the diaphragm. If you end up with any leaks, maybe consider reassembling with some RTV and thread locker on the screws.

While I wouldn't try using that in a traditional application, it may be just fine in this (much) less severe environment. Definitely interested to watch this evolve.

Do you have additional pictures or a link to the gate you bought? Curious if my idea for a Tial preload adjuster might work for this one as well. If so, might be a less expensive alternative to an auxiliary MBC. Could you take a couple of pictures of the internals as well, when you get a chance?


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I believe it a replica/similar design to the TiAL F38 which is the predecessor to the MV-S MV-R line. The two bolt flange was the design practice a little while ago, then Vband took completely over.

Here is the F38: http://www.tialsport.com/index.php/tial-products/wastegates/40-f38

Here is the gate he has, I believe: https://www.amazon.com/External-Exhaust-Manifold-Wastegate-Silver/dp/B00N1B66P8/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1483726767&sr=1-2&keywords=38mm+wastegate

here is a precision 38mm gate using the 2 bolt(i think it their current 38mm gate): https://www.amazon.com/Precision-Turbo-External-Wastegate-SPRINGS/dp/B00BNAJNA4/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1483726767&sr=1-1&keywords=38mm+wastegate

Precision uses a V-band on the rest of their gates, but 38mm retains a 2 bolt AFAIK.

Nice thing with the two bolt is that there are readily available flanges in whatever material you want, and easy to buy dump-pipes etc. such as: https://www.amazon.com/Rev9Power-Rev9-AC-004-38mm-Wastegate-Dump/dp/B00SA3PLEO/ref=sr_1_3?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1483726767&sr=1-3&keywords=38mm+wastegate

 

[MiWiAu]

I believe it a replica/similar design to the TiAL F38 which is the predecessor to the MV-S MV-R line. The two bolt flange was the design practice a little while ago, then Vband took completely over.

Here is the F38: http://www.tialsport.com/index.php/tial-products/wastegates/40-f38

Here is the gate he has, I believe: https://www.amazon.com/External-Exhaust-Manifold-Wastegate-Silver/dp/B00N1B66P8/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1483726767&sr=1-2&keywords=38mm+wastegate

Got it. Thanks, derf!

If that's the case, it looks like the generic doesn't have the M10x1 threaded port in the center of the cap like the F38/MV-S units have. Although, if the center springs are the same diameter, it wouldn't take much modification to get it to work if internal clearances are sufficient... interesting. I'll keep this in mind as I go through my feasibility review on the MV-S.


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[SHOdded]

Man this quoting bizness really makes a thread ugly LOL!

 

[f8tlSHO]

Miwiau
i already have the mbc from a previous turbo project, so its no additional cost for me.

 

[f8tlSHO]

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I believe it a replica/similar design to the TiAL F38 which is the predecessor to the MV-S MV-R line. The two bolt flange was the design practice a little while ago, then Vband took completely over.

Here is the F38: http://www.tialsport.com/index.php/tial-products/wastegates/40-f38

Here is the gate he has, I believe: https://www.amazon.com/External-Exhaust-Manifold-Wastegate-Silver/dp/B00N1B66P8/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1483726767&sr=1-2&keywords=38mm+wastegate

here is a precision 38mm gate using the 2 bolt(i think it their current 38mm gate): https://www.amazon.com/Precision-Turbo-External-Wastegate-SPRINGS/dp/B00BNAJNA4/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1483726767&sr=1-1&keywords=38mm+wastegate

Precision uses a V-band on the rest of their gates, but 38mm retains a 2 bolt AFAIK.

Nice thing with the two bolt is that there are readily available flanges in whatever material you want, and easy to buy dump-pipes etc. such as: https://www.amazon.com/Rev9Power-Rev9-AC-004-38mm-Wastegate-Dump/dp/B00SA3PLEO/ref=sr_1_3?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1483726767&sr=1-3&keywords=38mm+wastegate
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yes this is the one i bought off of amazon. i will see if i can take some pictures tonight with the lid popped off

 

[StealBlueSHO]

Does anyone work anymore!?


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[MiWiAu]

Miwiau
i already have the mbc from a previous turbo project, so its no additional cost for me.

Cool, yeah, I was just thinking for the next guy/gal who stumbles on this thread.

Man this quoting bizness really makes a thread ugly LOL!

Sorry, Manu. I went back and cleaned up my last ugly quote. I'm usually better about trimming my quotes, but you caught me in a moment of laziness.



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[MiWiAu]

Does anyone work anymore!?

Sometimes all this thinking and cleaning up messy quotes for Manu feels like work.


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[derfdog15]

Does anyone work anymore!?


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I have downtime every-time I wait for MATLAB to spit out more plots, and simulate more data...

Well that and a short attention span...

 

[SHOdded]

You are a naughty boy, MiWiAu, good thing XMas is already over, and you have many many days to repent

 

[FearlessAZ]

I do gotta say it is awesome to see what someone can tweak on one person's idea to make it work. Great stuff


Also, I see various parts and this and that mentioned throughout the thread. Anyone give a consolidated list to give a good idea of what parts are involved/need to be bought. Makes Putting together a budget for it a little easier.