Meth weird power behavior (renamed from meth failure)

[TopherSho]

Last night was perfect!  This morning not so much.  I ran 11+ runs with no issue using 100% meth based on a reply from tech@snowperfromance.com saying it was fine to run pure meth.

This morning the green led is turning Amber ..

anyone know what that Amber light means? It is a solid green/Amber color.  I am not referring to the Amber tank level light.

I do have a Email back in with snow ..

 

[StealBlueSHO]

Hmmm is it the pressure light? Is the pump not building pressure?


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[TopherSho]

Hmmm is it the pressure light? Is the pump not building pressure?


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No clue.  Trying to lookup the led states but thier site is hard to navigate on my phone..

 

[TopherSho]

If I have to guess,. The tech I talked to is wrong and the pump is NOT 100% meth safe and the pump ate the diaphragm sitting  overnight with 100% meth in it.

 

[StealBlueSHO]

If I have to guess,. The tech I talked to is wrong and the pump is NOT 100% meth safe and the pump ate the diaphragm sitting  overnight with 100% meth in it.

That's why I went with Alky Control.... sorry bud!


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[TopherSho]

If I have to guess,. The tech I talked to is wrong and the pump is NOT 100% meth safe and the pump ate the diaphragm sitting  overnight with 100% meth in it.

That's why I went with Alky Control.... sorry bud!


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If the verdict is in fact that the pump is NOT 100% meth safe i am going to be super pissed since i have an email stating it is.  I do not know if I can swap in a Alky pump and replace the Snow one but that's my 1st possibility if that is the case.

well see though,  as of now i don't even know what the green light going amber even means   .. could be a voltage issue (hoping!)

 

[TopherSho]

Sigh.  There's no doubt now that the snow pump has failed.  It turns on bright yellow then orange and the car freaks out. 

Turned it off.  Now to see what they will do for the warranty.  I am super annoyed since I have an email stating it's fine.  My gut says the sales guy did not understand my questions.

But even if they honor the warranty I'm hosed.  I do not want to run 50% ..

And now if I want back in the 70% meth game I need a 100% meth pump and try to adapt it to the kit I have.

Now to wait for a reply from snow.  Left a voicemail was well

 

[SHOdded]

I hope they do honor the warranty.  Then you can put it up for sale, and get an Alky pump instead?

Anyhoo, sorry for your "loss".

 

[askoncemore]

The plastic push lines will start to leak in time due to 100% meth.

I went to a good 100% meth pump and went braided steel... no issues.

 

[bpd1151]

Snow hasn't been very good at honoring their warranties.

Cringe.

Happy Alky-Controls customer here.

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[TopherSho]

Snow hasn't been very good at honoring their warranties.

Cringe.

Happy Alky-Controls customer here.

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That's awesome ... Clearly I bought the wrong kit.

If the lines won't hold either the whole thing is useless.

 

[ZSHO]

I unfortunately had a feeling based on your last runs.
Did you purchase your kit through Snow Directly?
I hoping for a Speedy resolution on the matter @ hand. Z

 

[StealBlueSHO]

So some quick research is showing if you want to replace the valves and diaphragm in that snow pump, you can run pure meth... the new valve/diaphragm is this one I believe?

http://www.pumpvendor.com/Shurflo_94-390-06.html

Chances are the valve/diaphragm got dissolved enough that its leaking and not able to build pressure so that part will need to be replaced anyway...

Then switch out the lines for braided without plastic fittings and you could be good to go... might be worth looking a Devils Own for fittings and lines...

I would get the pump model and call sureflo just to verify... it could be relatively inexpensive to convert your setup over to support 100 meth..

Good luck with getting them to work warranty with you! If you bought it from them you should be OK. If you purchase it for the less than the MSRP from another reseller they will not honor any warranty.




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[TopherSho]

So some quick research is showing if you want to replace the valves and diaphragm in that snow pump, you can run pure meth... the new valve/diaphragm is this one I believe?

http://www.pumpvendor.com/Shurflo_94-390-06.html

Chances are the valve/diaphragm got dissolved enough that its leaking and not able to build pressure so that part will need to be replaced anyway...

Then switch out the lines for braided without plastic fittings and you could be good to go... might be worth looking a Devils Own for fittings and lines...

I would get the pump model and call sureflo just to verify... it could be relatively inexpensive to convert your setup over to support 100 meth..

Good luck with getting them to work warranty with you! If you bought it from them you should be OK. If you purchase it for the less than the MSRP from another reseller they will not honor any warranty.




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SBS you are amazing.  thank you for the information.  i will follow up on the thread when i hear back from snow.  if i can get a new pump i will take it and convert it if possible.

 

[StealBlueSHO]

Did you get datalogs when it failed? I would say it's a testament to AJPTurbo's tune that your meth failed and your motor didn't pop!


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[TopherSho]

Did you get datalogs when it failed? I would say it's a testament to AJPTurbo's tune that your meth failed and your motor didn't pop!


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*sort of*

If you check my AJP meth experience thread I mention weird meth behavior after it sat for 17 days with 70% meth in it.. well I now think that's was the 1st sign.  At 70% meth it was degrading the diaphragm.. but it still operated once you made a hard run.  I data logged it doing its delay and posted it and sent one to brad.

Then I raced it since it felt fine after getting past that flutter.  At that time I was thinking air in the lines from not having a check valve.  it ran all night like a champ!  got a new best time and all that.

Next morning after sitting for 8 hours with 100% meth it was *done*.. green light would turn amber,  and after 3 more short tests it went all yellow and amber and the car bucked hard.

I would say in my form the AJP tune is saving the car from damage for sure!  now i will roll the tune back to my last non-meth favorite,  try to get a warranty replacement and send the car to the shop.  hopefully when i get the car back this coming friday i will have a new pump that is 100% meth safe and just swap it in and flip back to meth tune#3.

fingers crossed.

 

[TopherSho]

So some quick research is showing if you want to replace the valves and diaphragm in that snow pump, you can run pure meth... the new valve/diaphragm is this one I believe?

http://www.pumpvendor.com/Shurflo_94-390-06.html

Chances are the valve/diaphragm got dissolved enough that its leaking and not able to build pressure so that part will need to be replaced anyway...

Then switch out the lines for braided without plastic fittings and you could be good to go... might be worth looking a Devils Own for fittings and lines...

I would get the pump model and call sureflo just to verify... it could be relatively inexpensive to convert your setup over to support 100 meth..

Good luck with getting them to work warranty with you! If you bought it from them you should be OK. If you purchase it for the less than the MSRP from another reseller they will not honor any warranty.




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So am here, ( http://www.pumpvendor.com/Shurflo_8008-943-839_parts.html ) but cannot see any of the 'details'?  i cant verify if it support pure meth,  the browser (ff,chrome,IE) flashes and closes the page ..

have to call them to make sure.

 

[StealBlueSHO]

So some quick research is showing if you want to replace the valves and diaphragm in that snow pump, you can run pure meth... the new valve/diaphragm is this one I believe?

http://www.pumpvendor.com/Shurflo_94-390-06.html

Chances are the valve/diaphragm got dissolved enough that its leaking and not able to build pressure so that part will need to be replaced anyway...

Then switch out the lines for braided without plastic fittings and you could be good to go... might be worth looking a Devils Own for fittings and lines...

I would get the pump model and call sureflo just to verify... it could be relatively inexpensive to convert your setup over to support 100 meth..

Good luck with getting them to work warranty with you! If you bought it from them you should be OK. If you purchase it for the less than the MSRP from another reseller they will not honor any warranty.




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So am here, ( http://www.pumpvendor.com/Shurflo_8008-943-839_parts.html ) but cannot see any of the 'details'?  i cant verify if it support pure meth,  the browser (ff,chrome,IE) flashes and closes the page ..

have to call them to make sure.

Not sure, but this thread has a lot of good information from guys with SP pumps that have crapped out on 100% meth...

http://www.3si.org/forum/#/topics/379968?page=4



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[bpd1151]

Perplexed to still see suggestions at alternate pumps/vendors......

I'll reiterate, a proven, consistent performer.....  Alky-Controls.

Stop beating yourself up and just do it. Headaches, worries, concerns etc. all done with.

Did I mention Alky-Controls?

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[SHOdded]

i hear voices in my head moaning "Allllkkkkyyyyy" "Alllllllllllllllllllllkyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy" o yea!